If you hadn't gotten any 1 hour timers in ages then you were due for a run on them. That's how statistics work. By all means keep a track of them. It's the only way to show a correlation. Breed 100 with those gizmos and 100 without and see if there is a difference.
That's the gambler's fallacy.
It's like getting a run of 10 blacks on roulette and then saying you are due for a run of reds.
Statistically speaking, I'd only expect to get a 1 hour timer about 1 in every 10 tries.
To get 11/12 is pretty remarkable.
Actually, I just did a quick calculation - the odds of such an outcome (assuming all non-epics are equally likely) is approximately 1 in 12 billion!!
I must have miscounted, there is no way that sort of probability could come off - unless there is something to the gizmos.
If you hadn't gotten any 1 hour timers in ages then you were due for a run on them. That's how statistics work. By all means keep a track of them. It's the only way to show a correlation. Breed 100 with those gizmos and 100 without and see if there is a difference.
That's the gambler's fallacy.
It's like getting a run of 10 blacks on roulette and then saying you are due for a run of reds.
Statistically speaking, I'd only expect to get a 1 hour timer about 1 in every 10 tries.
To get 11/12 is pretty remarkable.
Actually, I just did a quick calculation - the odds of such an outcome (assuming all non-epics are equally likely) is approximately 1 in 12 billion!!
I must have miscounted, there is no way that sort of probability could come off - unless there is something to the gizmos.
Well I thought you were just saying in general, short breed times compared to long, but like you say, there is no way you go 11 Grinders out of 12 breedings with 11 possible outcomes (not counting Astro or Steam). That's why I suggest keeping records. The human memory is just so fallible.
Am very disappointed there has been no Fletch Wisdom regarding Gizmos improving breeding outcomes. **crickets**
Been following this line of thought for the past few days, so yesterday I added the red dsc to my breeding grinder, and after a day of short fails (the 1-2 hour fails, especially near bedtime/running errand time, are just as annoying as the 18 and 24 hour fails I found!), managed to just land a 48er. So, I'm inclined to think there is something to this "gizmos improving breeding outcomes!"
-Betsy[/quote]
1 day after swapping to red disc for my grinder (and half a day after ALSO swapping to the cactus for my flower, I have a 48 hour timer It had been a while since my last one as well.
And the only fails in between were mostly 1 hour fails. I had one 24 hour overnight (which was cleared by morning), a couple of 1.5 hour fails, and a couple of 4-6 hour fails.
Not bad!
As always, speed ups greatly appreciated - hopefully I can clear this in 7.5 hours before I go to bed. By my calculation, this requires 7 speed ups
Am very disappointed there has been no Fletch Wisdom regarding Gizmos improving breeding outcomes. **crickets**
Been following this line of thought for the past few days, so yesterday I added the red dsc to my breeding grinder, and after a day of short fails (the 1-2 hour fails, especially near bedtime/running errand time, are just as annoying as the 18 and 24 hour fails I found!), managed to just land a 48er. So, I'm inclined to think there is something to this "gizmos improving breeding outcomes!"
-Betsy
1 day after swapping to red disc for my grinder (and half a day after ALSO swapping to the cactus for my flower, I have a 48 hour timer It had been a while since my last one as well.
And the only fails in between were mostly 1 hour fails. I had one 24 hour overnight (which was cleared by morning), a couple of 1.5 hour fails, and a couple of 4-6 hour fails.
Not bad!
As always, speed ups greatly appreciated - hopefully I can clear this in 7.5 hours before I go to bed. By my calculation, this requires 7 speed ups [/quote]
That IS interesting. My Grinders have always had the Red Disk when breeding, but their breeding partner usually doesn't have the battle gizmo, but has had the increased Robux gizmo and I have bred 3 Steams and 3 Astros since the Steam came out.
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Guys, just a note, i do not play anymore but of course still have 3 crystals to give away. I will give them randomly but please please, do not return them Of course still checking here is there is something to speed up.
I don't know whether this will be encouraging or discouraging, but I didn't get my first astro until level 38. I didn't get a second until some time after I reached level 50. Don't give up and you'll get one eventually. Who knows, you might even beat my record.
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1 day after swapping to red disc for my grinder (and half a day after ALSO swapping to the cactus for my flower, I have a 48 hour timer It had been a while since my last one as well.
And the only fails in between were mostly 1 hour fails. I had one 24 hour overnight (which was cleared by morning), a couple of 1.5 hour fails, and a couple of 4-6 hour fails.
Not bad!
As always, speed ups greatly appreciated - hopefully I can clear this in 7.5 hours before I go to bed. By my calculation, this requires 7 speed ups
Thanks for the speedups folks, was another Astro - up to 6 now, but only 1 steam.
Personally though, I'd rather have more Astros as they earn way more. But I use the Flower + Grinder combo as I double my chances of getting an epic (and even the Steam still earns WAY more than anything else).
Also, I've decided to swap back to Grinder + Flower. While Grinder + Botanist/Solar makes more sense financially (and for experience), I'm too impatient with all the long fail times.
I guess I can always swap back to it, when and if I decide I want to display all Gizmos for all bots (on that note, I didn't realise when I first started playing that breeding two of the same bot doesn't yield you the same bot.
So I only kept 2 yetis and sold the 4 others I bred by accident.
Ready for my next collection point adventure. As always thanks in advance!
I've only just realised what all these posts about 'collection points' were about.
Interesting goal you have there. I might try it myself (should be very easy for me, as I've got about 14 zones free at the moment).
I'll just simply rebuy all my early zones - sell them off one by one as the new one rebuilds. Pretty soon, I should have all 3 astro zones as collection points, as they have all been pretty much the last zones for me to buy.
I'll have a look tonight and see what is involved. I have like 0 robux at the moment, so that would be the main constraint at this point.
Ready for my next collection point adventure. As always thanks in advance!
I've only just realised what all these posts about 'collection points' were about.
Interesting goal you have there. I might try it myself (should be very easy for me, as I've got about 14 zones free at the moment).
I'll just simply rebuy all my early zones - sell them off one by one as the new one rebuilds. Pretty soon, I should have all 3 astro zones as collection points, as they have all been pretty much the last zones for me to buy.
I'll have a look tonight and see what is involved. I have like 0 robux at the moment, so that would be the main constraint at this point.
It costs nothing really....and it involves others and gives u a reason to p,ay
Ready for my next collection point adventure. As always thanks in advance!
I've only just realised what all these posts about 'collection points' were about.
Interesting goal you have there. I might try it myself (should be very easy for me, as I've got about 14 zones free at the moment).
I'll just simply rebuy all my early zones - sell them off one by one as the new one rebuilds. Pretty soon, I should have all 3 astro zones as collection points, as they have all been pretty much the last zones for me to buy.
I'll have a look tonight and see what is involved. I have like 0 robux at the moment, so that would be the main constraint at this point.
Ready for my next collection point adventure. As always thanks in advance!
I was really confused at first, thinking isn't this exactly the same thing as I posted for him yesterday...then I looked back and discovered that you really had deleted the zone and the collection point had moved...slightly.
By the way, if I knew how to do the picture small, I would.
I love my vine dragon avatar created by ElektronX. Now, if only BFS would add it to the game...
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That IS interesting. My Grinders have always had the Red Disk when breeding, but their breeding partner usually doesn't have the battle gizmo, but has had the increased Robux gizmo and I have bred 3 Steams and 3 Astros since the Steam came out.
Just got another 48 hour! Same combo, grinder and flower with both gizmos.
If I get another one over the weekend, I'm convinced this does something.
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