If anyone is curious, in the US that would be $620US dollars which would equal around 25,000 gems. That would buy a lot of dragons. Odds in the rift need to be improved and/or etherium limits on habitats need to be bumped up. It is funny and sad that I also counted up my days of fails (8 so far) without success last night and also compared how much etherium I wasted and how much it would have cost me if purchased and was absolutely dissapointed with this game. I missed the majority of sun/moon, dream and I still haven't bred ANY of the 4 new Autumn rift dragons. Not fun!
It is your choice how far you will go to breed a particular dragon. To get up to 500,000 Etherium, I am sensing that you went way farther than the 2000 E level. And yes, as you attempt more times, the price escalates. But breeding more times in the real park can rapidly eat through gems as well You can choose to work with your resources, or to force the issue. It costs more to force the issue.
Way, way past. 10k twice each day after I got Apocalypse and Silver. The gains from a new habitat now are pretty small compared to their costs: it'd take me roughly 100 days to get a return on investment. Meanwhile, Misfortune is an amazing looking dragon and I really wanted it, so I decided to go all out with the maximum spend that still had my Etherium totals on an upward trend. My post was one part salt at not getting the dragon after putting in practically the maximum you could spend without IAPs, one part regret at missing the Dream comeback due to this, and one part amusement at how crazy the Eth shop costs still are even after BFS increased how much you get in each purchase.
Think of it this way. Backflip gave you 600+ dollars worth of Etherium in your rift for free over the last 8 days, all you had to do was collect it. How generous!
Really though, I've had to have a different mindset when dealing with the rift. Outside the rift, I've collected every dragon upon release, never missed one in all these years. I can't do that in the rift, think of it more like trying to build your twin collection from scratch. Grab what you can, and spend a year or two trying to fill it all in. If they release 10 rift versions of dragons for a week, be happy if you get 2 or 3. You always have mystery eggs, once everything is upgraded, and BeB events.
Indeed. It's a change I'm rather reluctantly making as well. It's really brought me back down to earth a bit, back down to my first year in the Vale where a half-dozen dragons I was missing were all available at the same time and I had to prioritise based on what I wanted, what would be re-released soon, what I currently have the resources to get. It's humbling in a way.
Still feels as bad to focus your efforts, try as hard as possible and still not succeed though. Maybe more so now that I've become accustomed to being able to clone off of someone else's dragon in co-op after the release window. Each miss feels like missing a Gemstone. Anyway, here's hoping the next set of Riftified dragons play ball a little more. Unlike Diamond, which I tried for today, and I got on the last breed! ... With no trait. What a tease.
Arkynos, I had the same experience with the Diamond in the Rift. Tried breeding for it on the final day, and got a cheeky un-traited Diamond on my final breed.
In response to my vocal complaints about the game lately, I was given the silent treatment:
Has anyone verified that a rifty version of a dragon can be used in the regular Park to breed a non-rifty version of itself?
I've been trying to breed a regular Hidden Bolt in the Park using a rifty Hidden Bolt and a Lightning Dragon. It's been over a month and still no luck.
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Has anyone verified that a rifty version of a dragon can be used in the regular Park to breed a non-rifty version of itself?
I've been trying to breed a regular Hidden Bolt in the Park using a rifty Hidden Bolt and a Lightning Dragon. It's been over a month and still no luck.
I got a non rift version of Faire and Hooded by sending my rift versions over to the main park. It is possible.
It is your choice how far you will go to breed a particular dragon. To get up to 500,000 Etherium, I am sensing that you went way farther than the 2000 E level. And yes, as you attempt more times, the price escalates. But breeding more times in the real park can rapidly eat through gems as well You can choose to work with your resources, or to force the issue. It costs more to force the issue.
Way, way past. 10k twice each day after I got Apocalypse and Silver. The gains from a new habitat now are pretty small compared to their costs: it'd take me roughly 100 days to get a return on investment. Meanwhile, Misfortune is an amazing looking dragon and I really wanted it, so I decided to go all out with the maximum spend that still had my Etherium totals on an upward trend. My post was one part salt at not getting the dragon after putting in practically the maximum you could spend without IAPs, one part regret at missing the Dream comeback due to this, and one part amusement at how crazy the Eth shop costs still are even after BFS increased how much you get in each purchase.
Think of it this way. Backflip gave you 600+ dollars worth of Etherium in your rift for free over the last 8 days, all you had to do was collect it. How generous!
Really though, I've had to have a different mindset when dealing with the rift. Outside the rift, I've collected every dragon upon release, never missed one in all these years. I can't do that in the rift, think of it more like trying to build your twin collection from scratch. Grab what you can, and spend a year or two trying to fill it all in. If they release 10 rift versions of dragons for a week, be happy if you get 2 or 3. You always have mystery eggs, once everything is upgraded, and BeB events.
Indeed. It's a change I'm rather reluctantly making as well. It's really brought me back down to earth a bit, back down to my first year in the Vale where a half-dozen dragons I was missing were all available at the same time and I had to prioritise based on what I wanted, what would be re-released soon, what I currently have the resources to get. It's humbling in a way.
Still feels as bad to focus your efforts, try as hard as possible and still not succeed though. Maybe more so now that I've become accustomed to being able to clone off of someone else's dragon in co-op after the release window. Each miss feels like missing a Gemstone. Anyway, here's hoping the next set of Riftified dragons play ball a little more. Unlike Diamond, which I tried for today, and I got on the last breed! ... With no trait. What a tease.
I never got a Rifted Apocalypse so was never able to try for Rifted Misfortune. COntinuing to work at it.
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Has anyone verified that a rifty version of a dragon can be used in the regular Park to breed a non-rifty version of itself?
I've been trying to breed a regular Hidden Bolt in the Park using a rifty Hidden Bolt and a Lightning Dragon. It's been over a month and still no luck.
I got a non rift version of Faire and Hooded by sending my rift versions over to the main park. It is possible.
Can't you get a non-traited clone in the Rift too?
Has anyone verified that a rifty version of a dragon can be used in the regular Park to breed a non-rifty version of itself?
I've been trying to breed a regular Hidden Bolt in the Park using a rifty Hidden Bolt and a Lightning Dragon. It's been over a month and still no luck.
I got a non rift version of Faire and Hooded by sending my rift versions over to the main park. It is possible.
Thank you for the verification.
Seems like ages I've been trying for this stupid Hidden Bolt. There are only 5 (or maybe 6?) possible outcomes with Hidden Bolt x Lightning. Ugh. I'm glad an event is about to start ... I think. My interest in the game has been steadily waning since they lowered the breeding odds. All the repeated failures are very discouraging and off-putting. I really hope Starfall is not more of the same. Games, especially "casual social" games are supposed to be fun, relaxing, and rewarding, not an exercise in constant frustration.
I got a non rift version of Faire and Hooded by sending my rift versions over to the main park. It is possible.
Thank you for the verification.
Seems like ages I've been trying for this stupid Hidden Bolt. There are only 5 (or maybe 6?) possible outcomes with Hidden Bolt x Lightning. Ugh. I'm glad an event is about to start ... I think. My interest in the game has been steadily waning since they lowered the breeding odds. All the repeated failures are very discouraging and off-putting. I really hope Starfall is not more of the same. Games, especially "casual social" games are supposed to be fun, relaxing, and rewarding, not an exercise in constant frustration.
Did they really lower the breeding odds? or is it just that there are so many potential matches, that there are several choices for any breed in that "rare" spot so you're less likely to get the one you want than when there were fewer choices in the pool?
Because it seems to me the Rift was created partly because they are in a no-win scenario. There are so many dragons already available to breed, that breeding new dragons becomes increasingly clogged up with "fails" that we would once have appreciated.
Seems like ages I've been trying for this stupid Hidden Bolt. There are only 5 (or maybe 6?) possible outcomes with Hidden Bolt x Lightning. Ugh. I'm glad an event is about to start ... I think. My interest in the game has been steadily waning since they lowered the breeding odds. All the repeated failures are very discouraging and off-putting. I really hope Starfall is not more of the same. Games, especially "casual social" games are supposed to be fun, relaxing, and rewarding, not an exercise in constant frustration.
Did they really lower the breeding odds? or is it just that there are so many potential matches, that there are several choices for any breed in that "rare" spot so you're less likely to get the one you want than when there were fewer choices in the pool?
Because it seems to me the Rift was created partly because they are in a no-win scenario. There are so many dragons already available to breed, that breeding new dragons becomes increasingly clogged up with "fails" that we would once have appreciated.
Personally, I don't think so. I think there are 3 things that are contributing to this feeling:
1) We're breeding a lot of things in the Rift, so no Epic Breeding Island bonus, which I remember from the tests done years ago is a very significant boost. 2) Unless you're a trillionaire you're probably not using max level dragons for every Rift breed. However the level bonus works (we don't know this; I have a stupid hypothesis though as I do on everything) you probably won't be getting as big a boost as park-side. 3) Some of the newer dragons just have really low breeding odds. Probably for reasons of keeping some dragons feeling hard to get despite the improved resources of long-time players. Or something like that.
The Hidden Bolt case is probably a different thing though: Parent Cloning is lousy for actually getting dragons. Alone, it seems to give drastically lower odds than if the combo is actually active. Higher than the 0% chance that was there before it was enabled for non-Epics, but still poor nonetheless.
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Yeah your logic may hold up in the Rift Arkynos , but: in my park, with L19 or 20 dragons, for two months now I have not bred a single goal dragon ped... So I reckon Vale odds at least have dropped Possibly dropped because of the Rift buying dragons/compensated for by the R buying dragons option... My inner cynic says 'drop Vale breeding odds and force Rift dragon market purchases...'
oh that may have been your point in 1. Sorry, need 5am coffee 😏
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Yeah your logic may hold up in the Rift Arkynos , but: in my park, with L19 or 20 dragons, for two months now I have not bred a single goal dragon ped... So I reckon Vale odds at least have dropped Possibly dropped because of the Rift buying dragons/compensated for by the R buying dragons option... My inner cynic says 'drop Vale breeding odds and force Rift dragon market purchases...'
oh that may have been your point in 1. Sorry, need 5am coffee 😏
I base my “odds are down” comments on the fact that during events I am now having to buy first dragons and pedestals and I never had to do that before. In the Rift I get a breed I am trying for every two to three weeks, not every two to three days.
Post by ilovdragons on May 2, 2018 13:12:34 GMT -6
Just wanted to check/confirm..these dragons are get-able in the rift right now: Emerald, silver, gold, silver olympus, gold olympus, seasonal, shield, wavelyte.
Just wanted to check/confirm..these dragons are get-able in the rift right now: Emerald, silver, gold, silver olympus, gold olympus, seasonal, shield, wavelyte.
Thanks 😊
Yes, all those are gettable.
Apologies for the late Rift limited update, was distracted by starry shenanigans. The Autumns have all rotated out, and Bouquet in.
Did I whine too much? Yesterday, I got my first Rift Hydra and then yesterday while breeding Rift Shield,I got 2 Rift Hydra fails in a row. I need to shift my whine to Rift Shield.
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Finally, a dragon in the Rift that I bred and did not get through buying a Mystery Egg. Bouquet - lvl 16 Flower w/Plant trait and lvl 20 Rift Water with Rift at Dark.
Just got my Rift Shield on my last 5000 breed! Too bad it's an ugly Earth Trait, but not the game's fault. Both the Hail Dragon and Rift are Earth Traited.
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