Well I'd say it was a pretty bad idea for me to collect 38 of my DC collecting fireflies before the limit was increased. It's gonna take me a long time to get the other 42.
42 gems is no big deal, don't put yourself through that.
Tell me how it goes if you do though. I wanna know if I'm right.
hm, depends on how long you have been playing. I still need 400 gems to upgrade my breeding islands, so will not have any for ff. with the exception of three short breeds, I have bred continuously this month for an elusive plasma. I know in time gems, dc etc. are not a problem. however, when first starting you never have enough!
Does anybody have any thoughts on the best way to manage Kairos? I haven't been paying attention and just noticed he's ready to go. My first thought is to leave him until after ff reset, do a full habitat sweep and a full cycle of pumpermelons, fire off Kairos, and then do another sweep with whatever habits have refilled. This will make it easier to get to max habitat ffs quickly.
But am I missing something more effective?
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hm, depends on how long you have been playing. I still need 400 gems to upgrade my breeding islands, so will not have any for ff. with the exception of three short breeds, I have bred continuously this month for an elusive plasma. I know in time gems, dc etc. are not a problem. however, when first starting you never have enough!
Hi deb. You would be better off using your 400 gems for ffs. The upgraded breeding sites are a double edged sword. Yes they speed up breedings, but they also create a bottleneck at the hatchery. This will just nudge you into spending even more gems to clear it each time it happens. Think about it. Imagine if you get double rainbow in both sites, then do it again back to back. All your hatchery spots will be full for 12 hours. If you next breeding yields a 23 min breed, it's a long time to wait. I know this is an unlikely scenario, but it happens all the time with lesser dragons too.
Pace yourself and upgrade your habitats to giant over the event. Start with plant as this is the best improvement in earning capacity. Then lightning. Then fire. If you do one day day on double ff weekends, you will be getting a huge benefit.
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Does anybody have any thoughts on the best way to manage Kairos? I haven't been paying attention and just noticed he's ready to go. My first thought is to leave him until after ff reset, do a full habitat sweep and a full cycle of pumpermelons, fire off Kairos, and then do another sweep with whatever habits have refilled. This will make it easier to get to max habitat ffs quickly.
But am I missing something more effective?
That's as good a strategy as any.
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It seems like this mid-day Double Firefly start has really hurt everyone who collected already in the first 11 hours of this 24 hour cycle.
At the least it seems like most players who already collected before the Double Fireflies started will be at a lost of 20 gems to get those extra 40 Fireflies, and be down a possible 80 Fireflies (40 from Habitat Collection, 40 from Treat Farm Collection), because the algorithm is either too hard since it was not meant for this or we just can't get them for some reason.
It seems like this mid-day Double Firefly start has really hurt everyone who collected already in the first 11 hours of this 24 hour cycle.
At the least it seems like most players who already collected before the Double Fireflies started will be at a lost of 20 gems to get those extra 40 Fireflies, and be down a possible 80 Fireflies (40 from Habitat Collection, 40 from Treat Farm Collection), because the algorithm is either too hard since it was not meant for this or we just can't get them for some reason.
Nah, it's a flat 72 hours. Theoretically, it's fair. Nonetheless, the only way to max it (and I'm going to try pull this next week) is to hold off as much on Friday, and max reset on the third day. As in, postpone party hats, treats, hatching and clearing up for the first day and do them really early on the last. (Or maybe this is only good in Europe - we start 5 hours earlier).
Does anybody have any thoughts on the best way to manage Kairos? I haven't been paying attention and just noticed he's ready to go. My first thought is to leave him until after ff reset, do a full habitat sweep and a full cycle of pumpermelons, fire off Kairos, and then do another sweep with whatever habits have refilled. This will make it easier to get to max habitat ffs quickly.
But am I missing something more effective?
I might save him for next Friday to guarantee that I'll get all my habitat FFs in half the time.
I was cutting it a bit close today, only just got my last 4.
Nonetheless, the only way to max it (and I'm going to try pull this next week) is to hold off as much on Friday, and max reset on the third day. As in, postpone party hats, treats, hatching and clearing up for the first day and do them really early on the last.
You only have to postpone treats and DragonCash collecting. I guess party hats too if you have less than 8 friends to visit.
Everything else can just be done after the event starts.
The Double Firefly Market Sale is only for 72 hours, but Double Magic collection would have been Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday (first 10.5 hours), unless Backflip changes something again.
The problem with the Friday is a lot of people already collected in the first 10.5 hours of the cycle and even though Backflip let them get the double daily amount the algorithm wouldn't work on allowing more collections on Habitat Collection and Treat Farm Collection.
It also meant spending an additional 20 gems making it 60 gems compared to someone who didn't collect in the first 10.5 hours who still only had to spend 40 gems, and who was able to get the full 360 instead of getting 280.
The Double Firefly Market Sale is only for 72 hours, but Double Magic collection would have been Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday (first 10.5 hours), unless Backflip changes something again.
The problem with the Friday is a lot of people already collected in the first 10.5 hours of the cycle and even though Backflip let them get the double daily amount the algorithm wouldn't work on allowing more collections on Habitat Collection and Treat Farm Collection.
It also meant spending an additional 20 gems making it 60 gems compared to someone who didn't collect in the first 10.5 hours who still only had to spend 40 gems, and who was able to get the full 360 instead of getting 280.
Yeah not a fan. Collected 38 ffs from habitats before the 2x started and have only collected an additional +4 after. I doubt I will be collecting any more from habitats so I'm out 38 for the day. I'm not enjoying this heavy exponential decay of ff collecting odds.
Post by LaGustieGal on Jul 18, 2014 21:54:30 GMT -6
I got fireflies from Breeding Hatching and selling eggs Harvesting crops Completing habitats Collecting from habitats Speeding up breeding and hatching And using kairos powers to speed stuff up. I have no gemstone dragons so I'm pretty much broke on gems, but I'm about halfway to the daw dragon. 400ish ffs to go.
I got fireflies from Breeding Hatching and selling eggs Harvesting crops Completing habitats Collecting from habitats Speeding up breeding and hatching And using kairos powers to speed stuff up. I have no gemstone dragons so I'm pretty much broke on gems, but I'm about halfway to the daw dragon. 400ish ffs to go.
Hi and welcome. Just looking at your list, I see you haven't visited friends. They are good for an extra 20 ffs per day. 40 on this double weekend.
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Post by jamesvaler on Jul 18, 2014 23:59:54 GMT -6
I am rather confused, I am afraid to say. Can we breed the dawn or dusk dragons? Cos if that's the case I need to get cracking! Also finally bought the eighth island so I can get a few extras from clearing. This is only my personal opinion, but everyone else is counting and those extra 4 FFs seem to be so unbelievably important. Yet I haven't even counted for 1 day, I seem to be a lot behind, just got my dawn dragon! I think the fun is in not taking it too seriously. I personally don't care about the tower, so for me (assuming 500 are needed to be payed for) I have about 1000 FFs I can lose. I definitely want the celestial habitat though! I think if you want the tower you should just take it easy and pay the extra tenner at the end for it. To me there is no reason to stress SOOO much for about £/€/$ 5. This is just if you aren't enjoying or don't like the event. To me the only really luring thing about the tower is how cool it would look... If you are enjoying getting your tower the way you are, go for it, if you aren't, slow down, don't stress out! If you want the tower and are willing to spend 5 on it, do it now, it should make life easier, as I remember from the magic egg easter hunt!
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The Double Firefly Market Sale is only for 72 hours, but Double Magic collection would have been Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday (first 10.5 hours), unless Backflip changes something again.
The problem with the Friday is a lot of people already collected in the first 10.5 hours of the cycle and even though Backflip let them get the double daily amount the algorithm wouldn't work on allowing more collections on Habitat Collection and Treat Farm Collection.
It also meant spending an additional 20 gems making it 60 gems compared to someone who didn't collect in the first 10.5 hours who still only had to spend 40 gems, and who was able to get the full 360 instead of getting 280.
Yeah not a fan. Collected 38 ffs from habitats before the 2x started and have only collected an additional +4 after. I doubt I will be collecting any more from habitats so I'm out 38 for the day. I'm not enjoying this heavy exponential decay of ff collecting odds.
While I'm also not too keen on the extremely low odds of collecting fireflies near the tail end, I'm still pretty okay with this arrangement. We seem to be effectively getting more than 3 days of double fireflies, and with this information we can attempt to effectively collect 4 days worth of double fireflies, assuming the next two weekends will also be double-firefly weekends.
Collecting from habitats and treats has a diminishing returns algorithm to it, in addition to a hard limit. Basically when you collect a treat, there's a chance that you will get fireflies, and that chance shrinks with each firefly you get.
When they start a double event, they raise the daily limits, but the diminishing returns are not reset. So if you already got fireflies from 20 habitats, the chances of getting some from your 21st could be at 0%, or at a value very close to it.
I suspect they're doing an exponential diminish this time around, so it could be possible to get an extra 40 fireflies from treats if you already collected 40 earlier. It might just take you a very, very, very long time.
Hatching dragons on the other hand is not subject to that at all. You get fireflies 100% of the time. When the limit is raised halfway through the day, you can just hatch a couple more dragons and you're done.
Thanks for this information, Guest! This really explained why I haven't been getting any extra fireflies from treats and collecting DC even though I got them from the other activities. You should really think about setting up an account and becoming an official member of the forum.
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I am rather confused, I am afraid to say. Can we breed the dawn or dusk dragons? Cos if that's the case I need to get cracking!!
If you have Dawn you can breed it with a Sun/Moon dragon to get a second one (I've done this and it took 5 tries)
If you have Dawn & Dusk you can breed them together for a chance at getting either... but note fails include Sun & Moon (these are also a fail if you do a Dawn/Dusk breeding with Sun/Moon.
You can't breed a Dawn if you don't already have one and the same goes for Dusk.
Hope that helps
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You only have to postpone treats and DragonCash collecting. I guess party hats too if you have less than 8 friends to visit.
Everything else can just be done after the event starts.
I rather thought DC-collecting would be unavoidable. I was talking about a scenario where treats, hats and similar eligibles are collected Friday pm (then Saturday, Sunday) and early Monday after European reset. 4 days' worth on some items for the price of 3 (you wake up about when we're about to have lunch).
Of course, since we didn't know that this time around, most of us had already done the routines when this started.
Do we know if there will be any triple weekends (can't remember if we had any the last event)? Because if that's the case I'll hold off on purcasing any FFs until the triple weekend. I highly doubt it, but you can never be too sure!
Do we know if there will be any triple weekends (can't remember if we had any the last event)? Because if that's the case I'll hold off on purcasing any FFs until the triple weekend. I highly doubt it, but you can never be too sure!
Most likely not. The help section only mentions double days and we've never had triple collecting weekends in previous events. Would be nice though.
I am rather confused, I am afraid to say. Can we breed the dawn or dusk dragons? Cos if that's the case I need to get cracking!!
If you have Dawn you can breed it with a Sun/Moon dragon to get a second one (I've done this and it took 5 tries)
If you have Dawn & Dusk you can breed them together for a chance at getting either... but note fails include Sun & Moon (these are also a fail if you do a Dawn/Dusk breeding with Sun/Moon.
You can't breed a Dawn if you don't already have one and the same goes for Dusk.
Hope that helps
Thanx, that's great! I was really confused and now I get it completely! Are they permanent dragons. So if I have the dawn dragon, which I do, can I just do it when I like, or is it exclusive to this event, because I NEED two of each! Thank you, koala to all,
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Do we know if there will be any triple weekends (can't remember if we had any the last event)? Because if that's the case I'll hold off on purcasing any FFs until the triple weekend. I highly doubt it, but you can never be too sure!
Most likely not. The help section only mentions double days and we've never had triple collecting weekends in previous events. Would be nice though.
Thanks for remembering ! I'm gonna buy a pack of 900 FFs right now then
jamesvaler Dawn and Dusk are limited according to the eggs page on the wiki. So you need to get your Dusk dragon reward by the end of the event.
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