Does anyone know for sure if spending gems to "upgrade" habitat capacity gives ff? I'm at the max habitats and need more! Also, this costs 50 gems, with max 40 ff given daily for "upgrades". Does that mean I can get 80 ff for upgrading during double days? Debating between doing this or using gems other ways so I don't end up wasting the extra 10 gems.
Trying hard to maximize ff collecting to get at least all rewards through the celestial habitat! So sad we can't get everything without spending money...
For sure. I think its 1 Gem/firefly. I wouldn't know if this ratio doubles because all the upgrades I've bought are past 50...
Only if you're skipping the Tower. When you turn in your fireflies for the last prize, the event ends immediately.
But INFO says: "Extra Fireflies? When the Firefly Festival is complete, any unspent Fireflies with automatically go toward the rewards. If you have any Fireflies remaining, you will get 1 Gem for every 5 Fireflies you have remaining". Seemed pretty clear to me...
The info section also clarifies what "complete" means. When you collect all the prizes, it ends early for you.
That's how the Easter event worked as well. You complete it, you get no gems.
But if I for some reason end up with more FFs than needed, I will of course be happy about the gem thingy
From our experience of the last event (I think it was noodles who discovered this), just keep collecting FFs without turning them in for the last reward. If you turn them in at exactly the needed amount, accumulation stops.
Hm, that's interesting. Did those extra magic eggs actually result in gems?
From our experience of the last event (I think it was noodles who discovered this), just keep collecting FFs without turning them in for the last reward. If you turn them in at exactly the needed amount, accumulation stops.
Hm, that's interesting. Did those extra magic eggs actually result in gems?
Yes, but saving them this time is not an issue since you can't turn in FFs unless you have the required amount for a prize. Last event, you could turn in your eggs at any time. So at the end of the event, your unredeemed eggs turned into gems. So if you turned in your eggs but didn't have enough for the next prize, you lost the possibility of earning those gems. People were not happy. Nevermind maybe I'm remembering wrong I really can't tell from the FB post lol.
Last Edit: Jul 19, 2014 14:20:46 GMT -6 by Kiyoji21
My eggs turned into gems, but that was because I didn't make the island (I wasn't that motivated. I'm kinda allergic to real estate, even dragon islands). Some people got gems, but as noodles had got the island early by purchase, she stopped being able to accumulate them. There's a thread on it, I don't exactly recall where.
We concluded then that the catch lay in when you turned in the eggs to get the reward. (That's the point of these forums, right? To help each other maximise their game and optimise the learning curve).
The way the menu puts it, I thought this would apply. I don't see BFS giving their paying customers a raw deal by stopping their game. There's just no PR sense to it. Next thing you know, no one would pay their way through anymore...
Last Edit: Jul 19, 2014 15:01:41 GMT -6 by freitag
Post by lizzydragon84 on Jul 19, 2014 15:12:57 GMT -6
I just got the dusk pedestal today and decided to crunch some numbers to see how many more ff I needed to get for everything else.
Since there's about 14 days left, and 3550 ff left to get everything, I would have to earn an average of 255.4 ff a day to get it all. This is impossible without buying ffs.
So to get the dusk dragon and habitat, I'd have to earn 1925 ff at an average of 137.5 ff a day. Much more doable, even without gems.
So if you're working on dusk stuff, you'll at least get up to the habitat (but not the tower) without spending money (but may need to spend gems if you're working on the edifice or pedestal). If you're still working on dawn stuff, you may have to spend $$ to get the habitat and tower.
I just got the dusk pedestal today and decided to crunch some numbers to see how many more ff I needed to get for everything else.
Since there's about 14 days left, and 3550 ff left to get everything, I would have to earn an average of 255.4 ff a day to get it all. This is impossible without buying ffs.
So to get the dusk dragon and habitat, I'd have to earn 1925 ff at an average of 137.5 ff a day. Much more doable, even without gems.
So if you're working on dusk stuff, you'll at least get up to the habitat (but not the tower) without spending money (but may need to spend gems if you're working on the edifice or pedestal). If you're still working on dawn stuff, you may have to spend $$ to get the habitat and tower.
If you count the first half of August 3rd, it's 15 days, and if you count the double weekends, it's 24.
I'm optimistically expecting 9 double days. There's 2 days left this weekend (if you get the job done quickly on Monday), the next one will most likely span 4 days again, and the last one might be just 3 days because the last day of the event is a Sunday.
How does everyone keep track of what exactly you still need to do that day to get the maximum daily fireflies?
While some activities are easy to track (for example when collecting party hats from 5 friends all at once you know you're done) other activities require you to do it in bits and pieces throughout the day. Do you just track and memorize throughout the day how many FF you have received from collecting dragon cash, how many you have received from plantings, etc?
I have to say I was disappointed to find through visiting a friend who's completed this event, that the island disappears! I had hoped it would be like the previous event where on completion we were left with a new small island to inhabit and decorate as we wished. For this one we'll have to find room for the celestial habitat on one of our current islands and the attractive winged creature we are gradually completing will disappear into the vast blue yonder!
How does everyone keep track of what exactly you still need to do that day to get the maximum daily fireflies?
While some activities are easy to track (for example when collecting party hats from 5 friends all at once you know you're done) other activities require you to do it in bits and pieces throughout the day. Do you just track and memorize throughout the day how many FF you have received from collecting dragon cash, how many you have received from plantings, etc?
For the first time, I'm going with the flow and not really bothering to monitor habitats and farms. I also don't have enough gems to maximise speeding up or building. I am playing a bit more intensively, and collecting party hats every day. I don't think that I will have enough ffs to get the tower in either park.
I am not sure if I will buy any ffs. Can anyone remember if the double items offer only happened once in the other events? I'm thinking of holding off until later. And is it better to buy gems or ffs?
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How does everyone keep track of what exactly you still need to do that day to get the maximum daily fireflies?
While some activities are easy to track (for example when collecting party hats from 5 friends all at once you know you're done) other activities require you to do it in bits and pieces throughout the day. Do you just track and memorize throughout the day how many FF you have received from collecting dragon cash, how many you have received from plantings, etc?
I usually don't start growing any treats until I finish collect all my FF from habitats. It makes it a lot easier to track since those are the most difficult to gather. I also sometimes make a note of how much FF I have if I need to come back to it later otherwise I would forget where I was.
How does everyone keep track of what exactly you still need to do that day to get the maximum daily fireflies?
While some activities are easy to track (for example when collecting party hats from 5 friends all at once you know you're done) other activities require you to do it in bits and pieces throughout the day. Do you just track and memorize throughout the day how many FF you have received from collecting dragon cash, how many you have received from plantings, etc?
For the first time, I'm going with the flow and not really bothering to monitor habitats and farms. I also don't have enough gems to maximise speeding up or building. I am playing a bit more intensively, and collecting party hats every day. I don't think that I will have enough ffs to get the tower in either park.
I am not sure if I will buy any ffs. Can anyone remember if the double items offer only happened once in the other events? I'm thinking of holding off until later. And is it better to buy gems or ffs?
Like flutter he, I am not bothering to track ffs. It is just too hard. I make sure that I have all the friends. The others just have to take their chances. I sometimes forget that I have collected my gem quota & speed something up unnecessarily. dang it.
As for buying gems or ffs. If your goal is to complete the ff event, I would buy ffs directly. That way you are not limited by the 40 ff gem daily cap. I have plenty of gems (diminishing rapidly!) and am not sure I will make the tower. Depends on how well I collect each day. Should have no trouble with the habitat though. Even that could be doubtful if something crops up in RL that stops me for a day or two.
Last event, every double weekend included a sale. That does not mean they will do the same this time round.
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hey everyone i was messing around with the spreadsheet but i wasn't able to come to a conclusion. i'm sitting on 341 fireflies for the dusk dragon, so 759 to go. that leaves me 3234 fireflies to get the tower. is it still possible for me to get the tower by the end, and what is the minimum i need to get each day. it's just that spreadsheet was confusing me, sometimes it says i can do it and sometimes it doesn't :S
How does everyone keep track of what exactly you still need to do that day to get the maximum daily fireflies?
While some activities are easy to track (for example when collecting party hats from 5 friends all at once you know you're done) other activities require you to do it in bits and pieces throughout the day. Do you just track and memorize throughout the day how many FF you have received from collecting dragon cash, how many you have received from plantings, etc?
At last night's refresh, I started using a tally counter app on the phone that I'd downloaded this spring for use with a dice game. The easiest way for me to do it was to set up categories for each area I needed to count: treats, habitats, eggs, visiting, and gems spent (No obstacles left here.) I use the iPad for DV, and the phone for counting. It's essentially like putting a tally mark on a piece of paper each time I collect ffs for something...only I'm sure to lose paper and my phone never leaves my side.
Yes, I'm a dork. But it's been nice to know when I've reached each category total for the day and I don't *have* to do anything more until refresh, so I'll probably keep it up for a while.
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hey everyone i was messing around with the spreadsheet but i wasn't able to come to a conclusion. i'm sitting on 341 fireflies for the dusk dragon, so 759 to go. that leaves me 3234 fireflies to get the tower. is it still possible for me to get the tower by the end, and what is the minimum i need to get each day. it's just that spreadsheet was confusing me, sometimes it says i can do it and sometimes it doesn't :S
thanks
Hi there welcome to the forum. Let's do some hypothetics shall we? You have 341 FF. Assuming you don't have any obstacles to clear, and you still have another day of double FF. That gives you 360 tomorrow. Assuming we have 2x weekends from here on out, that gives you 2160 for the next two weekends. Plus another 1440 from weekdays. That gives you a total of 4301 FFs.
Now if we assume only one more double weekend, that cuts down the grand total to 3761.
This includes a lot of assumptions like: collecting the max FF everyday and at least one more double weekend. Not entirely sure if my math is correct, but you should.
Hi there welcome to the forum. Let's do some hypothetics shall we? You have 341 FF. Assuming you don't have any obstacles to clear, and you still have another day of double FF. That gives you 360 tomorrow. Assuming we have 2x weekends from here on out, that gives you 2160 for the next two weekends. Plus another 1440 from weekdays. That gives you a total of 4301 FFs.
Now if we assume only one more double weekend, that cuts down the grand total to 3761.
This includes a lot of assumptions like: collecting the max FF everyday and at least one more double weekend. Not entirely sure if my math is correct, but you should.
wow thanks so much
i went off the your calculations and came up with this 360 + (5x150) + (2x360) + (5x150) + (360x2) gets me 3200 if i only get 150 on weekdays it will just get me the tower if i get 180 on one of the weekdays. that is what the spreadsheet said (that i can get it) but the number of fireflies/day seemed really low so that's where my confusion came from. thanks for clearing it up. i'm gonna be safe rather than sorry though but those pesky last few fireflies a day are hard to get koala and thanks again
I posted the other day wondering about how best to use Kairos during the event. I’ve been thinking about ways to leverage him and strategies to maximize ffs in general. Thought I’d share a few tips related to him and double ff weekends.
Warning: only for fanatics like me! If you’re trying to not stress about ffs, read no further!
In my situation I’ve got about 10 hours between ff reset at midnight and the end of double ff weekend Monday morning. This offers a great chance to grab more ffs during a fourth collection opportunity. If your ff reset is close to the end of double ff weekend it’s tougher for you to leverage this very well. Some of the following is applicable if you don’t have Kairos, but if your situation allows it, save Kairos for ff reset late Sunday night to get the biggest bang.
1. On Sunday collect from habitats aggressively during the day, emptying the more rapidly-filling habitats as often as possible to maximize ff chances. The goal here is to finish habitat collection as many hours as possible before ff reset so that a maximum number of habitats will be ready for collection at reset.
2. After friends have reset on Sunday evening (happens about 7 PM for me), Visit only 5 friends. The goal here is to leave some friends until after reset to collect double ffs from them Monday morning rather than getting single ffs from them after they’ve reset again on Monday evening.
3. During the day, manage your eggs to ensure you have 80 ffs worth to hatch out between ff reset and end of ff doubling. Also, manage your dragon treats to make sure you have free farms at reset.
4. Then, at reset, do the following before using Kairos:
a. Sweep all habitats, hopefully netting most of your ffs from this first pass. But don’t use Kairos yet, instead spend some time collecting your other ff categories in the following steps. The goal here is to allow several of the quicker-filling habitats to fill up while you’re doing the other ff busy work for a few more shots at ffs before you use kairos.
b. Plant several rounds of dragon snaps, continuing for as long as you’re getting a useful number of collections per round. When you’re done, plant pumpermelons for maturing under Kairos shortly.
c. Get 80 ffs from the eggs set up for hatching during the day (if egg availability doesn’t work out there’ll be another opportunity to hatch more eggs in the morning, so keep aware and set up breedings appropriately). Keep in mind that you’ve got Kairos coming up shortly and adjust your approach accordingly.
d. Buy one giant habitat for 25 gems and sell it back for 10 gems. This will net you 50 ffs. Next, spend 15 more gems for 30 ffs wherever you can (manage it with your breeding and incubating and whatever other purchases you might need). If you have to, use dragon treats to fine tune the gem spending. It may go against the grain to speed up food production, but you can precisely plant exactly 15 gems worth of sped-up food easily.
e. Visit the friends you left available from earlier in the evening. If you had 5 friends left over, this will net you 40 ffs rather than the 20 you would have gotten waiting for friend reset monday evening.
f. Now you can sweep the habitats one more time to catch any that have filled while you were doing all that other stuff!
5. NOW use Kairos. Sweep your habitats again for any that Kairos filled up for you, harvest your pumpermelons, empty and restart your breeding areas, hatch any eggs that have finished, plant another round of pumpermelons, etc.
6. Next, go to bed and get 5 or 6 good hours of sleep! When you get up in the morning, sweep your habitats, harvest your second batch of pumpermelons if you planted them, and do whatever else you may have left before double ff weekend expires.
If you’re both efficient and lucky, you should be pretty close to a full 360 ffs for Monday rather than the 180 you’d get if you start after doubling finishes. Finally, apologies for the length, but I hope you found some of the preceding useful!
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A very interesting read, Skitch. In my park, my party hats reset overnight, and the ffs reset at 7 am local time (BST). But a lot of your recommendations will work for me.
I just used Kairos this morning as I'm out for the day visiting Bletchley Park with the family.
Last Edit: Jul 20, 2014 11:47:59 GMT -6 by flutterbye
Kindle park1: nearly all dragons are frolicking in their habitats! (A Thorny little problem to resolve...)
Smartphone park2: Geode, a dragon with rocks in! Still to breed 4 dragons...
Has anyone found out if we can avoid collecting fireflies if I collect DC from our habitats before the treasure chest icons pop up? If this is possible, then we can do this for the next double-firefly weekend, to avoid the situation where we cannot collect the full 80 fireflies from DC-collecting.
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Has anyone found out if we can avoid collecting fireflies if I collect DC from our habitats before the treasure chest icons pop up? If this is possible, then we can do this for the next double-firefly weekend, to avoid the situation where we cannot collect the full 80 fireflies from DC-collecting.
Yes I had been wondering about this. I don't seem to get FF's if there isn't a chest but I wondered if the cash added up and influenced when you get your next FF?
Has anyone found out if we can avoid collecting fireflies if I collect DC from our habitats before the treasure chest icons pop up? If this is possible, then we can do this for the next double-firefly weekend, to avoid the situation where we cannot collect the full 80 fireflies from DC-collecting.
Yes I had been wondering about this. I don't seem to get FF's if there isn't a chest but I wondered if the cash added up and influenced when you get your next FF?
I have never received FF from a habitat that didn't have a chest. My theory and this is just MY theory is that the downward frequency of FF from habitats is by the number of habitats that you collect from and not the DC amount. This would make sense to me as it encourages players to come to their parks more often and therefore gives them more opportunities to purchase something. Hope that made sense, Koala to all
Last Edit: Jul 20, 2014 9:25:49 GMT -6 by dragonmagic1
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