i asked u to please see our side, think of us & ask deca to put the ghost dragons back. why are u being like this? u dont care if it upsets me that my dragonarium is gray ok thats fine. but why are u being a bully & rude to people who do care & want to help us. ur gettin all worked up & nitpicking cause u can’t tell if something is an order or telling or asking? are u kidding? what a joke. adlerist has never been rude or ordered anyone around. i dont post a lot but i read the forum & adlerist is really helpful & always has our back even newbies like me. you dont have our back & now ur mad or bothered cause “absolutely” was used? or the “tone” isnt right for u? thats so weak. dont criticize us help us. when u need help we will help u but if u turn ur back on us we might not be here when u need us.
Hey there, bricetwice.
I do see your side. I do care that you're upset about your dragonarium. But I don't know anyone at Deca, and can't ask them to do anything. There is nothing I can do to help, beyond what you can do, which is to contact them and ask them to change it back. My asking is not going to mean anything more than you asking. I am a nobody.
Alderist is an absolute superstar. No-one here is going to disagree. And I love that you have her back right now and are standing up for her. And she does know, and talk to people at Deca. Her asking will mean much more than me asking. I'm not trying to bully, nor be rude. If my disagreement is coming across that way, I apologise unreservedly. I'm just telling my thoughts on the situation. We can have a different POV and still be able to converse about an issue. Disagreement should not be mistaken for criticism.
It also shouldn't be confused with me being mad or bothered. I am neither of those things. Quite honestly, I was just trying to see the side of Deca, if they had decided to deliberately make this choice. I try to see the other persons side when they do or say something. It seems that Alderist has good information that this is an accident on their part, and if that's the case, I'm sure they'll be fixing it shortly.
I do apologise again that you feel I don't have your back right now. I meant to reply to your last post, but it slipped my mind. All the members, guests and staff here, past and present, mean a great deal to me. I don't want any of them to be upset. I especially don't want any of them to be upset about something I have said or done. But I am human, and that's bound to happen. I have unwittingly upset quite a few people at this forum over the years. All I can do when that happens is say I am sorry. Which I am.
thnks im sorry not trying to be a jerk. everyone who emails deca helps. i email them thats what we can do. you dont have to talk to deca like adlerist to help. i will have anyones back who has mine not just 1 person. lots or people will stand up for u if ur kind to them. i didnt get why u kept going on and on with this. first you want the ghosts in the primary even tho u were told its mistake. then when everyone is saying ur wrong & dont like ghosts you don’t let it go, u go on about a mandate then u cant win that either so u complain about tone. it reminds me of the peeps on twitter who always have to have the last word. they cant let anything go keep arguing & annoy everyone & everyone blocks them. U said u “unwittingly upset quite a few people at this forum over the years.” doesnt that bother u? dont u want that to stop? since it happens a lot its probly something u do & not everyone is being sensitive. if u dont want to upset people i can help w that. let things go. when u keep finding things to argue & pick on it gets annoying quick. be a bigger person & let it go & move on. having the last word doesnt mean u won the argument. it means u annoyed everyone away. i know ur going to reply to this cause u have to have the last word. but try not doing that anymore.
i hope u see this as being helpful & not insults. everyone has to work at getting along but its worth it to be kind & nice to each other. try & work on letting things go, not worry about getting the last word, be empathetic, listen to players & u wont be upsetting people. u dont want to lose members right? isnt that the aloha spirit this forum is about.
Ii am the - I think - the only member from the very early days of this forum and as such must unfortunately see the same problem over and over. Fletch has upset loads of people in the past. Then he disappears, comes back abd wants to play “boss” although he is totally lost in the game, which you see from the questions he places, but wants nonetheless to impose decisions, criticise the team., try to pretend he knows better and be a leader. Huge mistake! We have a fantastic mods team, lead by a super admin Adlerist, whowe all respect and like. She takes the right decisions, is wise, smart , and I am sure her team is total devoted to her. I do NOT want this to change. It is NOT in the Aloha spirit of our founder Poppy. So I suggest Fletch goes back amongst the “normal “ members of this forum and gives up that position which is totally misplaced after so many years of absence. And he should read the forum in order to learn hoe the game evolved in the psst years. This is my personal opinion and I stand by it. Adlerist you rule. This forum is ours, not Fletch s.
Now that the 9th Anniversary dragon has been released, shouldn’t there also be a statue for it? Also, in the past (maybe distant past), weren’t the previous anniversary statues made available? I might be just wishful thinking on that since I am missing 2. Sure hope one for this anniversary is released!
Combustion is the 600th dragon not the birthday dragon. I expect to see another special dragon as birthday dragon soon
Oops, you’re right, crumble608. Now, I feel better! 😀. Thanks!
I see the ghosties are still nestled all cozy in the elemental category. Is Deca still thinking about if they want to correct their mistake or not? Or have they decided to keep those ridiculous dragons there where they don't belong. I mean they have their own section and they are special dragons with special breeding requirements, they don't fit in the elemental category. Adlerist have you heard anything about what Deca plans to do about their error?
And in my opinion ghosties were a misguided idea period. They were created by designing nothing, just the absence of color and a bluish tint. Do they plan to to make ghosties out of all dragons? I mean there is no reason why they wouldn't. They certainly could. Maybe every Halloween they can just take some color away from some more dragons add a bluish hue and voila a new dragon. Except it isn't a new dragon at all. It's a dumb dragon with the word ghostly in front of it. At least if they had put some effort into creating ghostly dragons people might like them.
If this kind of thing were to catch on it could be used in all kinds of ways, repurposing all sorts of dragons by adding an adjective in front of their name and changing or removing their color. Maybe next they will have black and white dragons. Just repurpose previously designed dragons and put black and white or maybe monochrome in front of their name. Or maybe Surfer dragons. Repurpose previously designed dragons and add a surfboard to the mix.. Or how about alien dragons? Repurpose dragons and tint them a sickly green. Wouldn't that be awesome. Or how about in keeping with the halloween theme they could do it for every holiday. Like Elven dragons for Xmas or maybe turn them all red and white and call them candy cane dragons, maybe Bunny dragons for Easter or painted egg dragons, maybe hearts bursting out of the chests of repurposed dragons for Valentine's Day, At this rate no one would have to design another dragon or come up with another name ever. I really don't like ghostly dragons. I get they are here to stay but please Deca don't make any more of them and get them out of the elemental section where they become mandatory to breed and leave them in their own special ghostly section where they can be totally ignored if desired.
I see the ghosties are still nestled all cozy in the elemental category. Is Deca still thinking about if they want to correct their mistake or not? Or have they decided to keep those ridiculous dragons there where they don't belong. I mean they have their own section and they are special dragons with special breeding requirements, they don't fit in the elemental category. Adlerist have you heard anything about what Deca plans to do about their error?
And in my opinion ghosties were a misguided idea period. They were created by designing nothing, just the absence of color and a bluish tint. Do they plan to to make ghosties out of all dragons? I mean there is no reason why they wouldn't. They certainly could. Maybe every Halloween they can just take some color away from some more dragons add a bluish hue and voila a new dragon. Except it isn't a new dragon at all. It's a dumb dragon with the word ghostly in front of it. At least if they had put some effort into creating ghostly dragons people might like them.
If this kind of thing were to catch on it could be used in all kinds of ways, repurposing all sorts of dragons by adding an adjective in front of their name and changing or removing their color. Maybe next they will have black and white dragons. Just repurpose previously designed dragons and put black and white or maybe monochrome in front of their name. Or maybe Surfer dragons. Repurpose previously designed dragons and add a surfboard to the mix.. Or how about alien dragons? Repurpose dragons and tint them a sickly green. Wouldn't that be awesome. Or how about in keeping with the halloween theme they could do it for every holiday. Like Elven dragons for Xmas or maybe turn them all red and white and call them candy cane dragons, maybe Bunny dragons for Easter or painted egg dragons, maybe hearts bursting out of the chests of repurposed dragons for Valentine's Day, At this rate no one would have to design another dragon or come up with another name ever. I really don't like ghostly dragons. I get they are here to stay but please Deca don't make any more of them and get them out of the elemental section where they become mandatory to breed and leave them in their own special ghostly section where they can be totally ignored if desired.
And in my opinion ghosties were a misguided idea period. They were created by designing nothing, just the absence of color and a bluish tint. Do they plan to to make ghosties out of all dragons? I mean there is no reason why they wouldn't. They certainly could. Maybe every Halloween they can just take some color away from some more dragons add a bluish hue and voila a new dragon. Except it isn't a new dragon at all. It's a dumb dragon with the word ghostly in front of it. At least if they had put some effort into creating ghostly dragons people might like them.
I said the essentially the same thing when they introduced Twins to the game. Doubled the dragons and pedestals with no work at all on their part.
And in my opinion ghosties were a misguided idea period. They were created by designing nothing, just the absence of color and a bluish tint. Do they plan to to make ghosties out of all dragons? I mean there is no reason why they wouldn't. They certainly could. Maybe every Halloween they can just take some color away from some more dragons add a bluish hue and voila a new dragon. Except it isn't a new dragon at all. It's a dumb dragon with the word ghostly in front of it. At least if they had put some effort into creating ghostly dragons people might like them.
I said the essentially the same thing when they introduced Twins to the game. Doubled the dragons and pedestals with no work at all on their part.
yes, but the twins added the possibility to "interact" with other players. Its a good thing to be able to gift a dragon to another player, even if we can't control when it happens plus that they don't count as extra dragon type.
Last Edit: Aug 28, 2020 4:55:04 GMT -6 by crumble608
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I said the essentially the same thing when they introduced Twins to the game. Doubled the dragons and pedestals with no work at all on their part.
yes, but the twins added the possibility to "interact" with other players. Its a good thing to be able to gift a dragon to another player, even if we can't control when it happens plus that they don't count as extra dragon type.
lol. Just did a forum search for when they introduced the Twins.
I said the essentially the same thing when they introduced Twins to the game. Doubled the dragons and pedestals with no work at all on their part.
yes, but the twins added the possibility to "interact" with other players. Its a good thing to be able to gift a dragon to another player, even if we can't control when it happens plus that they don't count as extra dragon type.
Exactly.
They really shouldn't count as another type of dragon one needs to collect in order to breath fire. BFS felt that way, which is why the ghosties did not count. Now. because of Deca's error, they do. Supposedly this was an unintended result of placing them in the elemental category. What the actual intention of placing them there was I can't imagine. Perhaps, one might speculate, that it was a decision made by someone who has a heightened sense of order and wanted to neaten things up a tad not grasping how that move would effect the game. Or it could be some other reason that is unknowable to those of us without insider information about Deca's future plans. Aderlist any ideas? Care to speculate?
I understand an intention to include ghosties in a completionist scenario like blue fire and purple fire. They could have their own fire color. But they shouldn't count toward having all the dragons and a dragonarium that breaths fire.
Post by crumble608 on Aug 28, 2020 11:43:30 GMT -6
Up to a certain point I understand that some of the Ghostlies were put in the elemental section. Their egg design lets you conclude that they belong there. But this is only true for some of the Ghostlies. The special ones like Trinket or Kringle certainly do not belong in the elemental section. I personally do not care if my dragonarium breathes fire or not. I have been at that point before I walked away from the game for 2 years. Now, I play the game much more relaxed. But for those players that do care, I really hope that DECA will fix it.
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I have all the ghostly dragons so it really doesn't effect me at this time. I also don't really care if my dragonarium is breathing fire or not. However, I know a lot of people do care and some players don't want to collect ghostly dragons. And they didn't have to until a mistake was made. I don't understand that. If you are Deca and you want to change something go ahead, it's your game do what you want. Make breeding ghostly dragons mandatory for breathing fire if it pleases you. But don't make a mistake, say oops didn't mean for that to happen, and then do nothing about it. Why upset some players for absolutely no reason that you care to explain except to say it was a mistake? I mean if you want to do it then say so.
I like breeding dragons. That's why I play this game. I don't actually want to have all the dragons, all the twins and rift dragons and all the pedestals. That would suck the fun out of the game for me. I enjoy going nice and slow. Most of the time I have no idea if my dragonarium is breathing fire or not. However, I do like things to make sense to me. Because if things are random and happen for no reason then who knows what will change with the next mistake. If it was not a purposeful decision to change how ghostly dragons work in the game, but was simply an unanticipated result of placing them in the elemental category when Deca was doing fall cleaning and had no idea it would mess up dragon totals and fire breathing, then fix it. If doing this was a choice and something Deca wanted to do then they should say so.That's all. I don't think that's asking too much.
Although it makes no difference to me personally, I do care because I like things to make sense. Imagine the difficulty that must present for me in life when there is so little sense making in the world. I keep on trying though.
Up to a certain point I understand that some of the Ghostlies were put in the elemental section. Their egg design lets you conclude that they belong there. But this is only true for some of the Ghostlies. The special ones like Trinket or Kringle certainly do not belong in the elemental section. I personally do not care if my dragonarium breathes fire or not. I have been at that point before I walked away from the game for 2 years. Now, I play the game much more relaxed. But for those players that do care, I really hope that DECA will fix it.
But most of those dragons whose egg design might allow one to conclude that they belong in the elemental section cannot be bred at all. They are special dragons who need to be evolved using an effigy. That should exclude them for the elemental section. No?
yes, but the twins added the possibility to "interact" with other players. Its a good thing to be able to gift a dragon to another player, even if we can't control when it happens plus that they don't count as extra dragon type.
Exactly.
They really shouldn't count as another type of dragon one needs to collect in order to breath fire.
Ahh, I think I'm understanding now. Twins and Rifts (another way of increasing the number of dragon variations 10 fold with little actual work) aren't different dragons, so if Ghostly was just another variation in the same way, it would be fine. But making them a different dragon, when they are a similar reskin to Rifts is what feels wrong.
They really shouldn't count as another type of dragon one needs to collect in order to breath fire.
Ahh, I think I'm understanding now. Twins and Rifts (another way of increasing the number of dragon variations 10 fold with little actual work) aren't different dragons, so if Ghostly was just another variation in the same way, it would be fine. But making them a different dragon, when they are a similar reskin to Rifts is what feels wrong.
Yes, if I am understanding you correctly that's exactly it. At least to me. Before Deca's mistake they were just that, another variation of the same dragon. Collect/breed/evolve them or don't, whatever works for you. There are players who don't want ghostly dragons so they don't have them. There are players who ignore the rift. Twins are an option if you want blue fire but as long as you breed one of each dragon you're all set, your dragonarium will breath fire, albeit not blue or purple. But now you have to have all the ghostly dragons and that's new and according to Deca it's a mistake to boot. I mentioned earlier that it made sense to me if Deca wanted to make them like twins so that if you breed/evolve them all and all the ghostly pedestals as well, your dragonarium could breath a new color. It would be something to work toward if you were so inclined. But the way it went down as a mistake just seems off. It's quite a change for it not to be a change at all but an accident. I guess I would like to see Deca be more purposeful about something like this.
They really shouldn't count as another type of dragon one needs to collect in order to breath fire.
Ahh, I think I'm understanding now. Twins and Rifts (another way of increasing the number of dragon variations 10 fold with little actual work) aren't different dragons, so if Ghostly was just another variation in the same way, it would be fine. But making them a different dragon, when they are a similar reskin to Rifts is what feels wrong.
All rifts are the same except what are called the Rift Exclusives. They are different and you do have to have them for red fire. They do not have twins (except for a few rare cases) so they do not count towards blue fire but of course you have to have red before you can get blue.
Ahh, I think I'm understanding now. Twins and Rifts (another way of increasing the number of dragon variations 10 fold with little actual work) aren't different dragons, so if Ghostly was just another variation in the same way, it would be fine. But making them a different dragon, when they are a similar reskin to Rifts is what feels wrong.
Yes, if I am understanding you correctly that's exactly it. At least to me. Before Deca's mistake they were just that, another variation of the same dragon. Collect/breed/evolve them or don't, whatever works for you. There are players who don't want ghostly dragons so they don't have them. There are players who ignore the rift. Twins are an option if you want blue fire but as long as you breed one of each dragon you're all set, your dragonarium will breath fire, albeit not blue or purple. But now you have to have all the ghostly dragons and that's new and according to Deca it's a mistake to boot. I mentioned earlier that it made sense to me if Deca wanted to make them like twins so that if you breed/evolve them all and all the ghostly pedestals as well, your dragonarium could breath a new color. It would be something to work toward if you were so inclined. But the way it went down as a mistake just seems off. It's quite a change for it not to be a change at all but an accident. I guess I would like to see Deca be more purposeful about something like this.
I'm sure I read an Alderist post that said someone bought it to Deca's attention that the Ghostlies were limiteds that were always available, which didn't make sense, and so they made them permanent instead. Which then caused them to move to the primary elements like the Rift primaries, because that's how the system is set up for non-limiteds. It was an unintended consequence, so now they have to decide what to do. They could move them back to permanent limiteds, but they might be looking at doing things properly. Which takes some time.
I wasn’t playing the game when the ghostlies came out. I only have a few that I have gotten through mystery eggs, so I don’t know much about them, or what was going on when they came out. With twins we got the co op breeding cave. With the rift dragons, we got a place to breed rapidly for dragons with long fails. I wonder if BFS had something in mind for the ghostlies, but it never came about, or if there was something going on at the time with Hasbro so that this was the only way to add new dragons to the game. I also had the idea of a different color of smoke for having all the ghostlies, or how about your dragonarium breathes fire with little ghosts in it if you have the ghostlies.
I wasn’t playing the game when the ghostlies came out. I only have a few that I have gotten through mystery eggs, so I don’t know much about them, or what was going on when they came out. With twins we got the co op breeding cave. With the rift dragons, we got a place to breed rapidly for dragons with long fails. I wonder if BFS had something in mind for the ghostlies, but it never came about, or if there was something going on at the time with Hasbro so that this was the only way to add new dragons to the game. I also had the idea of a different color of smoke for having all the ghostlies, or how about your dragonarium breathes fire with little ghosts in it if you have the ghostlies.
Your Dragonarium does breathe little ghosts (instead of fire) if you have all the ghostly dragons. It is a very cool feature.
I wasn’t playing the game when the ghostlies came out. I only have a few that I have gotten through mystery eggs, so I don’t know much about them, or what was going on when they came out. With twins we got the co op breeding cave. With the rift dragons, we got a place to breed rapidly for dragons with long fails. I wonder if BFS had something in mind for the ghostlies, but it never came about, or if there was something going on at the time with Hasbro so that this was the only way to add new dragons to the game. I also had the idea of a different color of smoke for having all the ghostlies, or how about your dragonarium breathes fire with little ghosts in it if you have the ghostlies.
Your Dragonarium does breathe little ghosts (instead of fire) if you have all the ghostly dragons. It is a very cool feature.
Oh ya, how about that! Shows you how much attention I pay to my Dragonarium's fire breathing abilities. Is this new or has it always done this? I actually don't remember when I acquired all the ghostly dragons, although I do remember my Dragonarium breathing fire not ghostlies at some point. But it's sure breathing ghostlies now.
I wasn’t playing the game when the ghostlies came out. I only have a few that I have gotten through mystery eggs, so I don’t know much about them, or what was going on when they came out. With twins we got the co op breeding cave. With the rift dragons, we got a place to breed rapidly for dragons with long fails. I wonder if BFS had something in mind for the ghostlies, but it never came about, or if there was something going on at the time with Hasbro so that this was the only way to add new dragons to the game. I also had the idea of a different color of smoke for having all the ghostlies, or how about your dragonarium breathes fire with little ghosts in it if you have the ghostlies.
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