Hasbro's yearly and quarterly financial reports are online. Looks like they overpaid for BFS (or, a 70% stake of BFS). They bought it in 2013 for $112 million, which was more than fair market value, and then charged off $33 million of "Backflip related" goodwill impairment in 2016.
There's not much about 2018, but I did see something in one of the other reports about BFS needing to hit their growth and sales targets by the end of 2018 or the situation would become unfavorable. There's tons of stuff to look at, I got stuck in a 2 hour googling hole earlier today.
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I apologize for any frustration with DragonVale of late and have shared this with the DragonVale team. We are always trying out new features and formats for events and do take all feedback into consideration. Thank you for helping us improve. Best Regards, Mike
I got almost the same response when I emailed them about this and the previous event.
Mike (BACKFLIP STUDIOS) Nov 15, 16:57 MST
Hi there,
I apologize for any frustration with the game and have shared this with the DragonVale team. We are always trying out new features and formats for events and do take all feedback into consideration.
Is there anyone else currently having issues with the game force closing? I got on last night but now it I'll load but not get to the park. I've already deleted the game and reloaded it, but nothing.
As a side note, I'm about to try and transfer my game to a new iPad with the iOS that does not have Game Center. I've also not logged this game through FB. Is registering the game with FB allow me to transfer it with all my game data? Both parks are max level. I do know this question is not park of this event but I don't want to lose almost 3 years of gameplay if at all possible.
“Going forward, Backflip will be focused on fewer, bigger initiatives, including new Hasbro-branded games... “ Called it, coming soon... MyLittlePonyVale!
Is there anyone else currently having issues with the game force closing? I got on last night but now it I'll load but not get to the park. I've already deleted the game and reloaded it, but nothing.
As a side note, I'm about to try and transfer my game to a new iPad with the iOS that does not have Game Center. I've also not logged this game through FB. Is registering the game with FB allow me to transfer it with all my game data? Both parks are max level. I do know this question is not park of this event but I don't want to lose almost 3 years of gameplay if at all possible.
Thanks in advance for any and all who respond
Yes, it will link through FB but if you can't load the original park, you won't be able to link it to FB in game. Keep in mind ALL versions of ios have Game Center, the only thing removed was the ability to add new friends to GC and the stand alone app for it. Go into settings, and you'll see a Game Center setting that lets you login with any apple id. Your park should transfer with this method.
Is there anyone else currently having issues with the game force closing? I got on last night but now it I'll load but not get to the park. I've already deleted the game and reloaded it, but nothing.
As a side note, I'm about to try and transfer my game to a new iPad with the iOS that does not have Game Center. I've also not logged this game through FB. Is registering the game with FB allow me to transfer it with all my game data? Both parks are max level. I do know this question is not park of this event but I don't want to lose almost 3 years of gameplay if at all possible.
Thanks in advance for any and all who respond
Yes, it will link through FB but if you can't load the original park, you won't be able to link it to FB in game. Keep in mind ALL versions of ios have Game Center, the only thing removed was the ability to add new friends to GC and the stand alone app for it. Go into settings, and you'll see a Game Center setting that lets you login with any apple id. Your park should transfer with this method.
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“Going forward, Backflip will be focused on fewer, bigger initiatives, including new Hasbro-branded games... “ Called it, coming soon... MyLittlePonyVale!
Heh heh, yep, with Chromacorn as the founding ponydragon 😂😂😂
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Wow, thanks althea , for doing that research and spelunking into the caverns of doom for us 😈
This bit There's not much about 2018, but I did see something in one of the other reports about BFS needing to hit their growth and sales targets by the end of 2018 or the situation would become unfavorable.
Looks both explanatory re the recent cash grabbing, and ominous...
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Wow, not a doubles day. Was expecting one all weekend given we had none all week. They're being very stingy with their doubles this event, I'm already out of spice after making two Aubergine.
I have been thinking a lot about what's going on with Dragonvale and after reading arkynos post I am mulling over some stuff. A lot of what he said makes sense. Of course just calling it greed is oversimplifying things, but then again, in a way it IS just that simple. Not BFS greed, maybe not even Hasbro per se, but a more systemic greed, that is part of the corporate culture. It is an expectation you can hear in the stuff Althea posted about Habro's sales's targets after purchasing Back Flip Studios.
Mobile games is a market that is growing and continued growth is expected. A large percentage of apps downloaded by both IOS and Android are gaming apps. Although, I am certain, like Arkynos pointed out, only a few of those games are making really big money. Multi player games, MMOs, top the list for sure. Players invest a large amount of money into those games in order to have all equipment available and be super strong making them viable/successful players in a very short time. Nobody wants to earn it anymore. Just pay for fame.
Whether that is a chicken or egg thing, I don't know. Either the games gave birth to that mindset in some players because of the game's quest for as much profit as possible or perhaps understanding that mindset exists in many players encouraged developers to make that kind of buy your way to the top as fast as possible thinking a reality. Whichever doesn't matter. The fact is that now the expectation for most corporate owned games is to earn HUGE profits or get dumped. Certain money makers give the impression these kinds of profits from games are both feasible and sustainable. But the reality is something less.
Many games are played differently and are not multi player games based on making a world that has millions of other players to interact with or whatever passes for interaction in MMOs nowadays. It is not likely people playing a singer player game, a breeding game for example, like Dragonvale are going to invest hundreds of dollars a week to play. Some may, but generally most are not willing or able. My concern is that there are not enough whales to make up for the average player Hasbro is pushing out with these changes.
I'm also afraid that this petty mean-spiritedness I see happening with these events will evolve into something that will effectively end the ability to play with any success at all without investing significant money. I have seen it happen in games I have played before. Not this type of game, that much is true, but I am seeing the same kind of signs and skyrocketing costs that have rendered other kinds of games unplayable. One game that I played for years, a game that touted how you didn't need money to play which was true, but that just one purchase of $20 bucks opened everything up to you, which was also true. However over the years even that initial purchase became obsolete. In order to play you had to consistently invest money. I mean you could play, but not well. And they had so many kinds of in game currency that eventually the main currency became obsolete and they had to put a cap on how much you could hold because literally the stuff was useless and there was nothing to spend it on. I tried to keep playing but over time it became an exercise in futility. I was sad to let that game go, it had brought me much pleasure over the years. Everything changes. I know. But I don't want to lose Dragonvale. I have enjoyed playing so much over the years. But I know if they want to, Hasbro can make it really difficut to play without spending a lot of money. We are only at the beginning of the joy sucking possibilities that can be initiated. I really hope that's not the path Hasbro takes.
O m g for the limited Aubergine- evolve a level 18 berry dragon w any rift trait. The jelly plant must be in the park and 6 jelly plants must be ready to harvest. It must also be RAINING!
ARE THEY JOKING! I don’t own or want the weather station.
Where do you get this jelly plant? The only one I see only has 3 jellies, do you have to purchase 2 plants?
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tanyon7; You have to buy the jelly log, from prizes, plant 6 farms in jelly plants, wait til they’re ready to harvest, but DONT; set to rain; have a L18 Rberry, and 1000 Spice Tap on Rberry, tap on evolve, et voila!🐨 if you haven’t yet unlocked jelly plants you’ll need to do that first. check the OP of this thread for help tanyon7 😊
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Of course your points have merit but I think their idea of ‘long term’ also included (as he rubs his thumb and fingers together) $$$$$ baby...🤑
Oh yes, there are a lot of shortcomings with the Rift, aside from being outrageously expensive. The major one for me is when you Hatch a Dragon, especially in the Rift, it tells you how many of that brand of Dragon you have in total, but not how many are regular Dragons and how many are Rift Dragons. I need to know if I what to sell that Dragon right then and there. Unless you are keeping an up-to-date, accurate ‘paper count’, you must go into the Dragonairium and look it up...a big time consumer.
If you click on the number showing how many of the dragon you have, it will show you details of what they are.
🤭 DUH! Never even thought of that! How did you know? Thank you Jeanty! You have made my day!
Post by grandpakenny on Nov 16, 2018 18:58:18 GMT -6
OK now, help me here. I’m sometimes forgetful... Today was my 100 day anniversary for another Wish. When I tapped on it, nothing happened. Tapped on it again, nothing. I figured “Oh well, they just put it in my Wishing Well.” So then, I continued on and tapped on the Savory Silo for my Daily Event Prize and do you know what I got? I got a congratulatory message for getting my Wish! No D$. No Treats. No Spice. Just congrats on getting the wish. That’s what I can’t rememember, has it always been this way? I’m sure I would have remembered being as miffed 100 days ago as I am now. I feel cheated out of a day’s worth of goodies. Of course I don’t remember if there was an Event going on 100 days ago (there’s a good chance of that, considering the frequency of Events lately).
Anyone having problems logging in? I had the battery in my iPhone replaced today and since then I can't start the game. It just crashes. Anyone else having problems? No other apps are giving me any problems so I'm not sure if it's my phone or the game.
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OK now, help me here. I’m sometimes forgetful... Today was my 100 day anniversary for another Wish. When I tapped on it, nothing happened. Tapped on it again, nothing. I figured “Oh well, they just put it in my Wishing Well.” So then, I continued on and tapped on the Savory Silo for my Daily Event Prize and do you know what I got? I got a congratulatory message for getting my Wish! No D$. No Treats. No Spice. Just congrats on getting the wish. That’s what I can’t rememember, has it always been this way? I’m sure I would have remembered being as miffed 100 days ago as I am now. I feel cheated out of a day’s worth of goodies. Of course I don’t remember if there was an Event going on 100 days ago (there’s a good chance of that, considering the frequency of Events lately).
Hmm, I just got my 100day wish too, about 3-4 days ago. It was delivered at log in, NOT via the daily event gift tent, and I received my daily event gift per usual. I would email bfs and send a copy of your post. I think it’s a glitch. 🐨
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Anyone having problems logging in? I had the battery in my iPhone replaced today and since then I can't start the game. It just crashes. Anyone else having problems? No other apps are giving me any problems so I'm not sure if it's my phone or the game.
No probs here, but I play on an iPad. Dunno if that matters, absent no phone player chiming in with similar probs, sorry to be mundane but have you done a hard restart? Otherwise check the Encyclopaedia Dracontine thread, it has links to various trouble shooting tips and then, email backflip, their out of game email may also be in the ED thread other wise support@backflipstudios.com should do it 🐨🐨
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“Going forward, Backflip will be focused on fewer, bigger initiatives, including new Hasbro-branded games... “ Called it, coming soon... MyLittlePonyVale!
Heh heh, yep, with Chromacorn as the founding ponydragon 😂😂😂
Lets not leave out sleighbell ponydragon and osteryx ponydragon. Also when is MyLittlePonyVale going to be a tv show? Looking forward to it 😂😂😂😂😂
Anyone having problems logging in? I had the battery in my iPhone replaced today and since then I can't start the game. It just crashes. Anyone else having problems? No other apps are giving me any problems so I'm not sure if it's my phone or the game.
No probs here, but I play on an iPad. Dunno if that matters, absent no phone player chiming in with similar probs, sorry to be mundane but have you done a hard restart? Otherwise check the Encyclopaedia Dracontine thread, it has links to various trouble shooting tips and then, email backflip, their out of game email may also be in the ED thread other wise support@backflipstudios.com should do it 🐨🐨
I bred the Berry dragon in the rift. It won't go to level 18. It maxes out at level 10. Is this a sick joke?
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