That is a good idea. I must vote for the Galaxy dragons that I don't have with a trait. In one of my parks, the Galaxy EOMs are up to E 225,000 - which used to be the cap (and was too expensive then).
We really need a better way to get traited Galaxy dragons.
Same. I keep voting for Gravity to obtain the traited-twin. But the dragons are won so quickly, the chances of me catching Gravity when it’s in the open draws is zero percent.
If the Galaxy Egg of Mystery didn’t provide duplicate traited Galaxy dragons (unless you owned all of them), it would easily resolve the traited Galaxy dragon problem. But so far there hasn’t been a positive response from Deca on this suggestion.
Hmm... has it been suggested that, for the daily reward Galaxy EoM only (i.e. not the rare, epic, gem-earning ones), once you've got all the Galaxies non-traited and twined, the daily reward Galaxy EoM guarantees a traited Galaxy that you don't already have? That way it's still over 2100 days (so reasonably at least 6-7 years, probably closer to a decade since you'd need twin Galaxies to start with) to get all Galaxies traited so DECA can't reasonably say that would cause a balancing issue.
Either that or let us double parent clone Galaxies in RBCs, like evolution dragons. We only get a max of ten claims per RBC event and it looks like there's a max of 2 RBC events in a year, so if you bought one Galaxy EoM you'd still need to wait a whole year. You'd also need to buy extra Runestones for enough claims and have twins already so that your first claim would be a traited dragon.
Same. I keep voting for Gravity to obtain the traited-twin. But the dragons are won so quickly, the chances of me catching Gravity when it’s in the open draws is zero percent.
If the Galaxy Egg of Mystery didn’t provide duplicate traited Galaxy dragons (unless you owned all of them), it would easily resolve the traited Galaxy dragon problem. But so far there hasn’t been a positive response from Deca on this suggestion.
Hmm... has it been suggested that, for the daily reward Galaxy EoM only (i.e. not the rare, epic, gem-earning ones), once you've got all the Galaxies non-traited and twined, the daily reward Galaxy EoM guarantees a traited Galaxy that you don't already have? That way it's still over 2100 days (so reasonably at least 6-7 years, probably closer to a decade since you'd need twin Galaxies to start with) to get all Galaxies traited so DECA can't reasonably say that would cause a balancing issue.
Either that or let us double parent clone Galaxies in RBCs, like evolution dragons.
The daily rewards Galaxy mystery egg would not be helpful for players who need all 22 Galaxy dragons traited. If they’re going to adjust any Galaxy mystery egg, they might as well fix the Galaxy Egg of Mystery.
Galaxy dragons cannot be cloned outside the Cooperative Breeding Cave. It causes the game to crash. That’s why Lunis and Solis have bugs at the RBCs. Deca hasn’t been able to fix that bug, so I doubt they’ll be able to let the Galaxy dragons be clonable outside the co-op.
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Hmm... has it been suggested that, for the daily reward Galaxy EoM only (i.e. not the rare, epic, gem-earning ones), once you've got all the Galaxies non-traited and twined, the daily reward Galaxy EoM guarantees a traited Galaxy that you don't already have? That way it's still over 2100 days (so reasonably at least 6-7 years, probably closer to a decade since you'd need twin Galaxies to start with) to get all Galaxies traited so DECA can't reasonably say that would cause a balancing issue.
Either that or let us double parent clone Galaxies in RBCs, like evolution dragons.
The daily rewards Galaxy mystery egg would not be helpful for players who need all 22 Galaxy dragons traited. If they’re going to adjust any Galaxy mystery egg, they might as well fix the Galaxy Egg of Mystery.
Galaxy dragons cannot be cloned outside the Cooperative Breeding Cave. It causes the game to crash. That’s why Lunis and Solis have bugs at the RBCs. Deca hasn’t been able to fix that bug, so I doubt they’ll be able to let the Galaxy dragons be clonable outside the co-op.
I realise the daily reward EoM wouldn't be as helpful, but that's why I thought DECA might consider it. If I remember correctly, it was the Galaxy Rift EoM guaranteeing a new traited Galaxy that DECA said would cause a balancing issue during the most recent AMA (or a 'huge impact' or something, I can't remember the exact wording). While I disagree that it would cause an issue due to the extremely high costs, I can see why they'd say that it would cause an issue. Whereas I don't think they could reasonably say changing the Galaxy reward EoM could cause a balancing issue, since it would take at least 6-7 years. That's a Ts'aishen-level length of time, and (luckily for us) DECA haven't made that any more difficult to complete (they actually sort of made it easier by lowering the cost to use its power by 250 tokens).
I agree, it's better to fix the Rift EoM. But since DECA seem unlikely to do that any time soon, I thought the daily reward EoM could be a compromise.
Fair enough with the RBC bug though, I'd forgotten about that 😅
The daily rewards Galaxy mystery egg would not be helpful for players who need all 22 Galaxy dragons traited. If they’re going to adjust any Galaxy mystery egg, they might as well fix the Galaxy Egg of Mystery.
Galaxy dragons cannot be cloned outside the Cooperative Breeding Cave. It causes the game to crash. That’s why Lunis and Solis have bugs at the RBCs. Deca hasn’t been able to fix that bug, so I doubt they’ll be able to let the Galaxy dragons be clonable outside the co-op.
I realise the daily reward EoM wouldn't be as helpful, but that's why I thought DECA might consider it. If I remember correctly, it was the Galaxy Rift EoM guaranteeing a new traited Galaxy that DECA said would cause a balancing issue during the most recent AMA (or a 'huge impact' or something, I can't remember the exact wording). While I disagree that it would cause an issue due to the extremely high costs, I can see why they'd say that it would cause an issue. Whereas I don't think they could reasonably say changing the Galaxy reward EoM could cause a balancing issue, since it would take at least 6-7 years. That's a Ts'aishen-level length of time, and (luckily for us) DECA haven't made that any more difficult to complete (they actually sort of made it easier by lowering the cost to use its power by 250 tokens).
I agree, it's better to fix the Rift EoM. But since DECA seem unlikely to do that any time soon, I thought the daily reward EoM could be a compromise.
Fair enough with the RBC bug though, I'd forgotten about that 😅
I don’t think using Ts’aishen’s ridiculously long completion timeframe is a good idea to model other goals in the game. The Ts’aishen problem is one of the most loathed and complained about issues in the game. So if anything, Deca should steer away from it. If Deca changes the daily reward egg, I doubt players will be happy; it won’t be enough. Therefore, if they’re going to go through the trouble, they should just correct the Galaxy Egg of Mystery.
singleimage is the one who requested (on the Forum) the Galaxy mystery egg no dupes for the AMA. I relayed the request on the Reddit AMA thread. But judging from Deca’s response, it appears there was a misunderstanding, and they thought the request was to alter all the mystery eggs. No dupes would not be a good idea for the permanent mystery eggs. But there would be no negative effect to the game if the Galaxy eggs didn’t provide traited duplicates, because there’s no way to breed the dragons in the Rift, and they’re rarely used in breeding combos. Thus, there’s no impact on the game.
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I realise the daily reward EoM wouldn't be as helpful, but that's why I thought DECA might consider it. If I remember correctly, it was the Galaxy Rift EoM guaranteeing a new traited Galaxy that DECA said would cause a balancing issue during the most recent AMA (or a 'huge impact' or something, I can't remember the exact wording). While I disagree that it would cause an issue due to the extremely high costs, I can see why they'd say that it would cause an issue. Whereas I don't think they could reasonably say changing the Galaxy reward EoM could cause a balancing issue, since it would take at least 6-7 years. That's a Ts'aishen-level length of time, and (luckily for us) DECA haven't made that any more difficult to complete (they actually sort of made it easier by lowering the cost to use its power by 250 tokens).
I agree, it's better to fix the Rift EoM. But since DECA seem unlikely to do that any time soon, I thought the daily reward EoM could be a compromise.
Fair enough with the RBC bug though, I'd forgotten about that 😅
I don’t think using Ts’aishen’s ridiculously long completion timeframe is a good idea to model other goals in the game. The Ts’aishen problem is one of the most loathed and complained about issues in the game. So if anything, Deca should steer away from it. If Deca changes the daily reward egg, I doubt players will be happy; it won’t be enough. Therefore, if they’re going to go through the trouble, they should just correct the Galaxy Egg of Mystery.
singleimage is the one who requested (on the Forum) the Galaxy mystery egg no dupes for the AMA. I relayed the request on the Reddit AMA thread. But judging from Deca’s response, it appears there was a misunderstanding, and they thought the request was to alter all the mystery eggs. No dupes would not be a good idea for the permanent mystery eggs. But there would be no negative effect to the game if the Galaxy eggs didn’t provide traited duplicates, because there’s no way to breed the dragons in the Rift, and they’re rarely used in breeding combos. Thus, there’s no impact on the game.
I actually just got another daily galaxy egg last week and thankfully got one I didn’t have traited yet. That got me thinking this exact thing - I have 7 left, apparently. Not half. That’s 2 years even if we had no duping. Tack on the possibility of Deca adding new Galaxies to the mix and we’re looking at even longer. I don’t mind waiting 700 days for my traited versions if they’re guaranteed. Especially when I still have the option of trying with Galaxy Eoms on top of that… but to have zero way of obtaining them beyond a lottery doesn’t sit well with me. I could play for my entire life and never get them all? No thanks.
Another option would be to include more Galaxies in events and list them in the last day reward options. Players would still have to work at obtaining twins first and it would take time for events to come around again for another chance. At the very least, Galaxy dragons used in breeding combos should follow this rule - so Solarflare and Glimmerwing (I think Solarflare was in the Camping last day reward list last year?) I’m also crossing my fingers that Gravity is available as a choice reward. It’s my pick and I suspect PlantDaddy wants it too if he hasn’t been lucky enough to win the rng lotto.
I don’t think using Ts’aishen’s ridiculously long completion timeframe is a good idea to model other goals in the game. The Ts’aishen problem is one of the most loathed and complained about issues in the game. So if anything, Deca should steer away from it. If Deca changes the daily reward egg, I doubt players will be happy; it won’t be enough. Therefore, if they’re going to go through the trouble, they should just correct the Galaxy Egg of Mystery.
singleimage is the one who requested (on the Forum) the Galaxy mystery egg no dupes for the AMA. I relayed the request on the Reddit AMA thread. But judging from Deca’s response, it appears there was a misunderstanding, and they thought the request was to alter all the mystery eggs. No dupes would not be a good idea for the permanent mystery eggs. But there would be no negative effect to the game if the Galaxy eggs didn’t provide traited duplicates, because there’s no way to breed the dragons in the Rift, and they’re rarely used in breeding combos. Thus, there’s no impact on the game.
I actually just got another daily galaxy egg last week and thankfully got one I didn’t have traited yet. That got me thinking this exact thing - I have 7 left, apparently. Not half. That’s 2 years even if we had no duping. Tack on the possibility of Deca adding new Galaxies to the mix and we’re looking at even longer. I don’t mind waiting 700 days for my traited versions if they’re guaranteed. Especially when I still have the option of trying with Galaxy Eoms on top of that… but to have zero way of obtaining them beyond a lottery doesn’t sit well with me. I could play for my entire life and never get them all? No thanks.
Another option would be to include more Galaxies in events and list them in the last day reward options. Players would still have to work at obtaining twins first and it would take time for events to come around again for another chance. At the very least, Galaxy dragons used in breeding combos should follow this rule - so Solarflare and Glimmerwing (I think Solarflare was in the Camping last day reward list last year?) I’m also crossing my fingers that Gravity is available as a choice reward. It’s my pick and I suspect PlantDaddy wants it too if he hasn’t been lucky enough to win the rng lotto.
Yeah, I’m waiting for the camping event too for this very reason! 😄
Galaxy dragons in the event market is an interesting idea. The only problem I see is that there’s a lot of Galaxy dragons, so it would really expand and pad the market. Even if they were split up a little. I can mention it, but as you said, it won’t help the traited Galaxy problem, unless they’re included in the final gift.
I really think the answer is two-fold: (1) no dupes in the Galaxy Egg of Mystery until you have all the Galaxy dragons traited, and (2) let players wish for traited-twin version of a dragon (this will address a lot of other problems beyond the Galaxy dragons).
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Yeah, I’m waiting for the camping event too for this very reason! 😄
Galaxy dragons in the event market is an interesting idea. The only problem I see is that there’s a lot of Galaxy dragons, so it would really expand and pad the market. Even if they were split up a little. I can mention it, but as you said, it won’t help the traited Galaxy problem, unless they’re included in the final gift.
I really think the answer is two-fold: (1) no dupes in the Galaxy Egg of Mystery until you have all the Galaxy dragons traited, and (2) let players wish for traited-twin version of a dragon (this will address a lot of other problems beyond the Galaxy dragons).
I mean Deca’s gonna have a heck of a time with expanding markets regardless. They add 7ish dragons every year to each event. It might be time to make a few more permanent or something, just to ease the growth.
My preference would definitely be dupe protected eoms, but it’s the easy way and I get if Deca wants to keep it difficult for player retention. I also sometimes wonder if there are enough whales out there buying crazy amounts of etherium for Galaxy eoms to make the current system worthwhile.
There must be some middle ground we can reach. Random thought- I wonder if Deca can search the game for how many players actually have all the galaxies traited. That would give them a good idea of how incredibly impossible it is.
Yeah, I’m waiting for the camping event too for this very reason! 😄
Galaxy dragons in the event market is an interesting idea. The only problem I see is that there’s a lot of Galaxy dragons, so it would really expand and pad the market. Even if they were split up a little. I can mention it, but as you said, it won’t help the traited Galaxy problem, unless they’re included in the final gift.
I really think the answer is two-fold: (1) no dupes in the Galaxy Egg of Mystery until you have all the Galaxy dragons traited, and (2) let players wish for traited-twin version of a dragon (this will address a lot of other problems beyond the Galaxy dragons).
I mean Deca’s gonna have a heck of a time with expanding markets regardless. They add 7ish dragons every year to each event. It might be time to make a few more permanent or something, just to ease the growth.
My preference would definitely be dupe protected eoms, but it’s the easy way and I get if Deca wants to keep it difficult for player retention. I also sometimes wonder if there are enough whales out there buying crazy amounts of etherium for Galaxy eoms to make the current system worthwhile.
There must be some middle ground we can reach. Random thought- I wonder if Deca can search the game for how many players actually have all the galaxies traited. That would give them a good idea of how incredibly impossible it is.
The most straightforward and easiest fix is to simply adjust the price. The Galaxy eggs should not cost as much as the Monolith eggs, since Monoliths can be bred in the Rift and you only need two eggs to complete the based Monolith collection.
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I mean Deca’s gonna have a heck of a time with expanding markets regardless. They add 7ish dragons every year to each event. It might be time to make a few more permanent or something, just to ease the growth.
My preference would definitely be dupe protected eoms, but it’s the easy way and I get if Deca wants to keep it difficult for player retention. I also sometimes wonder if there are enough whales out there buying crazy amounts of etherium for Galaxy eoms to make the current system worthwhile.
There must be some middle ground we can reach. Random thought- I wonder if Deca can search the game for how many players actually have all the galaxies traited. That would give them a good idea of how incredibly impossible it is.
The most straightforward and easiest fix is to simply adjust the price. The Galaxy eggs should not cost as much as the Monolith eggs, since Monoliths can be bred in the Rift and you only need two eggs to complete the based Monolith collection.
Not to mention, you can technically use RBCs and end of event gifts for traited Snowflakes, Monoliths and Chrysalis dragons. You could theoretically get all traited of those three elements without spending anything on EOMs. Whereas even if you got no dupes from the Galaxy EOM, if you were to get traited Galaxies from EOM only (i.e. not end of event gifts etc.) I'm pretty sure it costs over a million etherium.
I did suggest a double the price, guarantee a new traited galaxy option in my dear DECA ✨essay✨. If DECA would find that removing dupes altogether would be detrimental to their income, having the option to double the price to guarantee a new one might be a compromise. It's not what we want of course since that's a huuuuuuuge amount of etherium, but it could end up being cheaper than it is currently.
Or,it could be a group of multiple small things. Daily reward galaxy EoMs guaranteeing a new traited one once you've got all twins, having an occasional galaxy dragon in an event (e.g. if it's required for a combo/fits the theme) and the double the price option/decreasing the price of EOMs but still with dupes won't do much alone as you said, but all together it could make things more bearable.
The most straightforward and easiest fix is to simply adjust the price. The Galaxy eggs should not cost as much as the Monolith eggs, since Monoliths can be bred in the Rift and you only need two eggs to complete the based Monolith collection.
So true regarding the price. The steep prices make sense for Monoliths, Snowflakes and Chrysalis eoms because we’re supposed to be breeding our dragons, not just buying them. We see this in the high market prices for new dragons too. It’s understandable because there are other, direct routes to obtaining those dragons. This mechanic logic is fundamentally flawed for Galaxies and Deca should know that. Even just resetting the G. Eom pricing every event would help.
I suppose when we get right down to it, I don’t understand why Deca seems against players having a proper path to obtaining Galaxies traited. After all, every other dragon does. Even primary traited Chrysalis dragons can be obtained through claim options. I can’t imagine any meaningful reason to hinder players from completing this one particular component of their Dragonariums. Player retention? Money? A basic lack of understanding? Complacency? It certainly isn’t ‘game balancing’, because that makes absolutely no sense.
While going through the tutorial in a small park I noticed that Blue Moon is available!
Since I never use the feature now that there's no longer a cap I put all my shards in my main park in. 🤞!
Koalas I need you, and not for the RBCs for once!
I saw Blue Moon the other day and thought of you, but the draw was very nearly finished.
I have been voting for dragons that I would like to see in the draw. Some of them don't seem to get enough votes to appear and others have been and gone before I can put any Shards in the draw.
Here are some koalas to help with Blue Moon. I hope that if a Forum member wins a dragon from Dragon Draw that they let us know. 😊
While going through the tutorial in a small park I noticed that Blue Moon is available!
Since I never use the feature now that there's no longer a cap I put all my shards in my main park in. 🤞!
Koalas I need you, and not for the RBCs for once!
I saw Blue Moon the other day and thought of you, but the draw was very nearly finished.
I have been voting for dragons that I would like to see in the draw. Some of them don't seem to get enough votes to appear and others have been and gone before I can put any Shards in the draw.
Here are some koalas to help with Blue Moon. I hope that if a Forum member wins a dragon from Dragon Draw that they let us know. 😊
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Sadly, I didn't manage to get Blue Moon 😞 But the Koalas definitely arrived safe and sound, since I got a twin Lunk and just managed to clone Lunk in an RBC! Now all I need is a second Undau dragon and I'm pretty much guaranteed traited versions of Blue Moon, Lunk and Undau.
If I do manage to get a second Undau I'll try to double parent clone Riptide. If by some miracle I manage to get a twin, I'll only need to buy one Runestone to be able to get a traited version 😁
I feel like either fake users are being drawn or cheating is going on. 11/50 last shown winners being the same user just seems impossible when players are going on almost two years of not winning ever. That would be ALOT of real money to guarantee that many wins.
Looks like you're referring to DragonVale#8186452, is that right?
The majority of their wins are a little further down but I've seen: Sunscorch, Monolith, Amber, Wilderness, Corrupticorn, Nova, Aisa, Hydnellum and Darkmatter so I'm guessing the other two you were referring to got cut off (or I missed them).
It's not as clearly cheating as when the other user was cheating, but that may be because they're attempting to be more subtle in the hopes of not getting caught.
There could be a bug with the draw though, I've seen a lot of dragons come up in quick succession. It looks like they're probably part of the moon themed draw but I've seen three completed Moriantes in a row (all with different winners, none of them 8186452)... that definitely shouldn't have happened.
Sunscorch is the current moon dragon being offered in Moon Dragons section of Dragon Draw, so Deca do know that it is a Moon dragon. That makes it an even bigger mystery why it was removed from this event. 😊
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