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Post by kaleni#0146 on Apr 21, 2024 4:13:44 GMT -6
Dear Witches and Wizards of Dragonvale!
We are aware that many of you are still waiting for a few very special dragons to join your parks!
Sadly catching them and bringing them to you is taking our wizards longer than we thought, but we want to reassure you that a Leap Year Dragon, as well as a dragon to celebrate the Year of the Dragon are still planned to come to your parks within the year!
We appreciate your patience and understanding and can't wait to reveal these dragons to you when it is time!
Have we heard anything about these two dragons since February? Not trying to rush anyone obviously, just curious to know if the reps know a rough release date yet. I'm excited to see them!
Last Edit: Apr 21, 2024 4:14:47 GMT -6 by kaleni#0146: Corrected the formatting.
We are aware that many of you are still waiting for a few very special dragons to join your parks!
Sadly catching them and bringing them to you is taking our wizards longer than we thought, but we want to reassure you that a Leap Year Dragon, as well as a dragon to celebrate the Year of the Dragon are still planned to come to your parks within the year!
We appreciate your patience and understanding and can't wait to reveal these dragons to you when it is time!
Have we heard anything about these two dragons since February? Not trying to rush anyone obviously, just curious to know if the reps know a rough release date yet. I'm excited to see them!
Unfortunately, there has been no update on the Quad or YotD dragons.
The Rift primaries are now breedable. That means they can be breeding fails, so it'll be more challenging to breed dragons in the Rift.
Each primary dragon’s breeding percentage is 1%. That means for Basket, which has 6 elements in the breeding combo, has a chance of producing any of the six primary Rift dragons. This lowers Basket’s breeding percentage to 1.56%.
Many players are asking why Deca did this. They have not provided a reason. The Game Reps urged Deca to not implement the changes (they were showing in the data for a while).
If you have any comments or feedback about this change, please post it on this thread. It will be passed on to Deca. Thank you!
Last Edit: Apr 25, 2024 12:02:50 GMT -6 by adlerist
Post by kaleni#0146 on Apr 25, 2024 11:21:21 GMT -6
If you have any comments or feedback about this change, please post it on this thread. It will be passed on to Deca. Thank you!
I have two speculations about why they did it, one optimistic, the other cynical. The optimistic speculation is that they did it so that newer players could breed the Rift primaries from hybrids if they happened to have one with the required element before the primary, but this does seem unlikely because it's unlikely a player would have many Rift hybrids before getting the primaries. Maybe they were thinking of pedestals, but in that case a player could just use the primary they want a pedestal for in the combo. The cynical speculation is pretty obvious, that being 'they did it for the sake of difficulty'. I obviously don't know for sure but these are the only reasons I can think of besides 'just because we can'. Given the first seems unlikely, my bets are on the second, if either are true.
As for feedback, you might have guessed given my second speculation. If in fact the reason was what I first guessed, I'm grateful for the thought, but it is just going to make Rift breeding more annoying for 99% of players. If it was the second reason, that's even more uncool. There's already a chance of getting an untraited dragon, so adding usually at least 2 and possibly up to 10 new results all of the time is just going to make that even more frustrating. Deca is presumably aware that people like getting traited dragons (either for breeding as the Rift cave is the most useful, for aesthetics, for purple fire, or some other reason(s)), so they should be able to understand why this decision probably won't be received purely positively by most players. (The reason why I specify 'purely' is because I get that some people will probably like it, but I imagine they'll be able to understand other players' frustrations.)
Rift primaries are now essentially "permanent Dargons/Motleys", luckily with restrictions (they do need their element to be in their combo and they can't be bred outside of the Rift). Admittedly Dargon/Motley being made permanent would be more annoying due to not having those two restrictions, but if Deca can imagine how annoying that would be, this change isn't that much better imo. In addition, we already have three Rift dragons that have very few restrictions (Yolkwing, Kampos and Plumewing, which can be a result of any combo that uses their required trait in the Rift). Rift primaries being breedable is a slightly worse version of those.
If Deca decides to keep this I'd like to request that going forward they never give new releases that can be bred in the Rift a combo that requires more than 6 primary elements in the mix. (5 or 6 is excessive with a 1% chance for the Rift primaries but I figure 4 is too low a request.) I highly doubt they'd be up for limiting all combos to 6, but I doubt I'm alone in saying that preferably Rift primaries are reverted to being clone-only.
Post by kaleni#0146 on Apr 25, 2024 11:26:18 GMT -6
Alternatively they could add an extra requirement, the primary's trait (so Fire Rift = Fire + Rift + fire trait), or even the trait and the alignment (so Fire Rift = Fire + Rift + fire trait + fire alignment), which would make them less annoying, but I personally would still prefer them being reverted.
I understand that DV needs to make money so the game can run, and I don’t mind that DECA adds things to do this. But I don’t see how putting Rift primaries in the breeding results is going to encourage players to spend money on the game. Players will just get frustrated. They’re not going to put money into something that frustrates them.
Is DECA going to make an announcement about this? It would be good to hear some communication from them and their thoughts behind making this drastic change.
Players have the impression that Deca think that the Rift makes DV too easy with the instant breeds. This is not the case. The Rift with instant breeds is necessary. Every event there are ~8 dragons released. Some of these have 5+ elements (Basket has 6). The more elements in a breeding combo the larger the number of dragon fails are a result. These 5+ element dragons would never be able to be bred in the Vale in the 7 days that most of the limited dragons are released for. In Basket’s case there are 12 dragons that have a breed time of 24 + hours.
If it weren’t for the Rift and instant breeds, we would need more breeding caves in the Vale to allow for the extra elements and extra long fails to give us a fair chance of breeding the limited dragons.
With Rift primaries now being breedable, the odds of receiving the dragon that is being bred for will be reduced by a significant amount. Normal primaries in the Vale do not have a breeding hint and cannot be single parent cloned.
The Rift needs a major overhaul. Rift breeding percentages need to be increased to allow for the extra fails that the Rift primary dragons will bring. The percentage of non-traited dragons also needs to be significantly reduced.
I respectively suggest that no-one at Deca plays DragonVale or if they do, they are not at a level or stage where they wish to receive traited dragons. Otherwise, they would understand how difficult breeding traited dragons can be and why allowing Rift Primary dragons to be bred is a bad idea.
Please remove the Rift Primary dragon breeding hints. They are not necessary and will not be received well in the DragonVale communities. This decision will not help with the retention of players.
Forum members Please add a post to this thread if you are also upset about this change. It is going to impact on the Rift Breeding that you do and considerably lower the odds of obtaining the dragon that you are breeding for.
The more comments that adlerist can pass back to Deca from upset players the better chance that Deca might listen to the players and reverse the change.
It doesn’t have to be a long comment. A one-liner is all that is needed.
I think this is a very silly change and can't see the point, other than it making rift dragons more difficult, and not in a fun challenging way. Are Deca trying to annoy their entire player base? As a long tíme player this makes it harder to get rifties, but a newbie may also find it even more overwhelming in the rift.
The breeding hints are also annoying as they won't ever unlock naturally so I have to clear them manually. I genuinely don't understand why Deca thought this was a good idea.
GCID: NinjaKiwi. *remember the full stop!*
DVID: NinjaKiwi#3970
Currently breeding for whatever twins I can possibly get my hands on
I already posted this on Bugs ang Glitches, but am reposting here, so it's together with other feedback re rift change.
I'm very disappointed with this change and unsure what Deca is trying to achieve. It's already challenging to rift breed and takes players a long time to develop their rift sufficiently to have parent dragons and adequate etherium earning capacity to do multiple breeds. I really hope this decision is reversed. I'll watch for a while to see how it pans out, but fear it makes DV a less attractive game in the long run.
The breeding hints for the Rift primary dragons will be removed from the game soon. The Rift primaries will no longer be breedable or add to the breeding fails. This change is not live yet but should be activated today.
Thank you, everybody, for your support and feedback. Many cheers!
The breeding hints for the Rift primary dragons will be removed from the game soon. The Rift primaries will no longer be breedable or add to the breeding fails. This change is not live yet but should be activated today.
Thank you, everybody, for your support and feedback. Many cheers!
I figured this would happen. I had a look on your post on the subreddit and I don't think I saw any positive comments there either. I'm very glad Deca listened to everyone.
I do wonder what they thought would happen though, if they were so quick to revert it... Surely they must have at least suspected that this would happen? So why bother in the first place? 🤔 But I guess it doesn't matter much now that it's changed back.
The breeding hints for the Rift primary dragons will be removed from the game soon. The Rift primaries will no longer be breedable or add to the breeding fails. This change is not live yet but should be activated today.
Thank you, everybody, for your support and feedback. Many cheers!
Well done on getting this change pulled so promptly. I think it would have risked losing DV players, so it's a relief. Thank you.
You can now breed in the Rift with no extraneous Rift primaries!
The changes are in the game, and the world is good again.
Thanks for the update! I started writing my response about the situation last night, but never made it to posting. Guess I’ll just… tuck it away on the off chance they try something similar in the future. Thanks to our reps for advocating to vehemently on our behalf!
You can now breed in the Rift with no extraneous Rift primaries!
The changes are in the game, and the world is good again.
Thanks for the update! I started writing my response about the situation last night, but never made it to posting. Guess I’ll just… tuck it away on the off chance they try something similar in the future. Thanks to our reps for advocating to vehemently on our behalf!
What she said!!! After writing my response over and over and over ... i gave up and went to bed. After an appointment, i came back online and saw the good news. Now i am left wondering what deca will do next? Many thanks to adlerist, all the reps, and to all players who spoke up. DragonVale Forever!!!
You can now breed in the Rift with no extraneous Rift primaries!
The changes are in the game, and the world is good again.
Thanks for the update. Thanks adlerist and the other Game Reps for pushing so hard on our behalf and convincing Deca that it was an unpopular move and needed to be reversed.
Post by kaleni#0146 on Apr 29, 2024 7:51:48 GMT -6
There's an update for DragonVale in Google Play (I check for apps that need updating every day or so since I don't get notifications, and just saw DV). Not sure about iOS devices as I know sometimes updates are released at different times.
Edit: there doesn't appear to be any major changes, I would guess it's just general bug fixes.
Last Edit: Apr 29, 2024 8:38:06 GMT -6 by kaleni#0146
There's an update for DragonVale in Google Play (I check for apps that need updating every day or so since I don't get notifications, and just saw DV). Not sure about iOS devices as I know sometimes updates are released at different times.
Edit: there doesn't appear to be any major changes, I would guess it's just general bug fixes.
DV version 4.30.4 is in the App Store
I asked Deca for the contents earlier today. Players have been waiting a very long time for an update with a lot of fixes. Hopefully, this is it.
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Time to make those parks lovey!
Have we heard anything about these two dragons since February? Not trying to rush anyone obviously, just curious to know if the reps know a rough release date yet. I'm excited to see them!Dear Witches and Wizards of Dragonvale!
Thanks for the update! I started writing my response about the situation last night, but never made it to posting. Guess I’ll just… tuck it away on the off chance they try something similar in the future. Thanks to our reps for advocating to vehemently on our behalf!You can now breed in the Rift with no extraneous Rift primaries!
