What's also weird is that apparently the Rigel egg was sent to Gaia's nursery! This egg didn't seem to have any traits, and had an incubation time of 16 hours... Really strange! Does that mean there's another version of Rigel we need to get now?
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What's also weird is that apparently the Rigel egg was sent to Gaia's nursery! This egg didn't seem to have any traits, and had an incubation time of 16 hours... Really strange! Does that mean there's another version of Rigel we need to get now?
Sounds like a bug, it's still flagged as rift only with a cold trait. It does have an incubate time set, where most rift only dragons have a 0. It also doesn't add 'rift' by default as an element when breeding, unlike all the other rift only dragons. My guess is it's a bug, as this is the first dragon like this that is rewarded in the daily login guaranteed egg.
I tried cloning for another one, but with no luck. If I am understanding correctly from the previous posts, one cannot clone a Rigel? This is the part I don’t get. The breeding hint says the breeding pair must be galaxy dragons. But it won’t work if one or both of the parents is/are a Rigel? Or did I misinterpret?
This is really confusing to a lot of players and probably warrants a post on Galaxy dragons in our info thread. I have been confused on this in the past as well, the Burcadian Event especially when they released Galaxy dragons could be bred.
Galaxy dragons can still be bred only in the Cooperative Cave to receive a galaxy dragon/egg. You can breed them in other locations like the rift, island and cave, and they will contribute their elements to the breed but you will never receive a Galaxy dragon/egg except in the case of Rigel which you need all other Galaxy dragons in your park (doesn’t matter if non rift, rift, twin) and it can only be bred in the rift and only when Rigel is available. Rigel is the only limited Galaxy dragon at this time.
There was a post I saw early on from Backflip stating Rigel couldn’t be be used in the combo to clone one. I am not sure if this has changed, but I am thinking this was their intention from the start. What makes this all so confusing is the picture they released stating Galaxy dragons can now be bred anywhere.
What makes this all so confusing is the picture they released stating Galaxy dragons can now be bred anywhere.
I forgot all about the infamous in-game notification claiming that Galaxy dragons can be bred in ANY breeding cave. BFS walked back this statement. All of it. Galaxy dragons can’t be bred/cloned anywhere except in the co-op, same as always. Apparently, it was too difficult to make them breed-able everywhere, so zero changes were made to the Galaxy dragon’s breeding rules. They never should’ve released that announcement; it unnecessarily threw a wrench of confusion into an already bewildering Galaxy breeding regime.
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I tried cloning for another one, but with no luck. If I am understanding correctly from the previous posts, one cannot clone a Rigel? This is the part I don’t get. The breeding hint says the breeding pair must be galaxy dragons. But it won’t work if one or both of the parents is/are a Rigel? Or did I misinterpret?
No, you’re correct. You can’t clone Rigel. If you want a second Rigel or a pedestal, you’ll have to breed two Galaxy dragons (that aren’t Rigel) while Rigel is available. It’s horrendously confusing, and there’s absolutely no way a player could possibly know this unless they read this thread. How terrible is that? It should never be like this.
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What's also weird is that apparently the Rigel egg was sent to Gaia's nursery! This egg didn't seem to have any traits, and had an incubation time of 16 hours... Really strange! Does that mean there's another version of Rigel we need to get now?
I just saw the pic on Reddit that you were referencing. Hah! I had absolutely no idea what you were talking about until this very moment! 😃 Yesterday, when I mentioned the Reddit posters who received Rigel from the Daily Rewards, I was referring to a couple posts from five days and three days ago. I hadn’t seen this one posted later in the day. For the non-Reddit users who don’t know what I’m talking about, check out this screenshot from a player who received Rigel from the Daily Rewards and had to incubate Rigel for 16 long hours.
I asked the other posters from five and three days ago if they incubated Rigel as well. They’ve already responded (Reddit users are so with it!). Both players had to incubate Rigel for 16 hours. I love how the 16 hour incubation time was just pulled out of the sky. I wonder how long Yolkwing would take.
Who would’ve thought a Rift-only dragon like Rigel wasn’t so Rift-only after all and needs Gaia’s nest to warmly hatch. This game is so unpredictable with more plot twists and surprise turns than a Shyamalan rollercoaster at midnight. That metaphor kinda got away from me, but I think you know what I mean.
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I asked the other posters from five and three days ago if they incubated Rigel as well. They’ve already responded (Reddit users are so with it!). Both players had to incubate Rigel for 16 hours. I love how the 16 hour incubation time was just pulled out of the sky. I wonder how long Yolkwing would take.
0 seconds, and not 0 seconds as in it's Rifty and they're all 0 seconds, but as in its incubate time exists and is set to 0 seconds.
14 Rift dragons have non-zero incubate times. Rigel is 16 hours as we can see... Then at 48 hours we have the 10 Elemental Rift dragons. Light and Dark were 48 hour dragons before the Rift was a thing, of course, but they still are and the others joined them there. Chroma and Corrupticorn are both also 48 hours. How Rainbow of them. The weirdest is Abraxas at 23 hours. No idea why. The others I haven't mentioned are all at 0 with Yolkwing.
Rigel is I think the only one that I've heard ever needing to actually be incubacted. I suspect it missed a check somewhere; presumably the code that lets traited dragons incubate instantly should have kicked in but didn't. 🧐
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Has anyone responded yet if hatching this new Rigel dragon produces a rift Rigel or a buggy normal Rigel without rift traits?
It’s just a normal Rift Rigel.
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I asked the other posters from five and three days ago if they incubated Rigel as well. They’ve already responded (Reddit users are so with it!). Both players had to incubate Rigel for 16 hours. I love how the 16 hour incubation time was just pulled out of the sky. I wonder how long Yolkwing would take.
0 seconds, and not 0 seconds as in it's Rifty and they're all 0 seconds, but as in its incubate time exists and is set to 0 seconds.
14 Rift dragons have non-zero incubate times. Rigel is 16 hours as we can see... Then at 48 hours we have the 10 Elemental Rift dragons. Light and Dark were 48 hour dragons before the Rift was a thing, of course, but they still are and the others joined them there. Chroma and Corrupticorn are both also 48 hours. How Rainbow of them. The weirdest is Abraxas at 23 hours. No idea why. The others I haven't mentioned are all at 0 with Yolkwing.
Rigel is I think the only one that I've heard ever needing to actually be incubacted. I suspect it missed a check somewhere; presumably the code that lets traited dragons incubate instantly should have kicked in but didn't. 🧐
I see, that’s how it’s programmed. I was only making a silly joke. Since they’re just throwing out incubation times, I wondered how long Yolkie’s would be. Maybe forever. After all, he is a chicken and prone to the egg.
Even though it may be fixed, I kinda like this error. Why not give Rigel a little originality? All the other Rift-exclusives and even any regular traited dragon we receive from a mystery egg are insta-hatched. I like the plot twist. This sets Rigel apart from the rest of the lot by 16 hours.
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Let talk exclusion lists. There are multiple exclusion lists in the file, and multiple ways dragons are added/excluded from the various rewards.
Some of the values are just not clear on exactly how they get used in the game. Others have more complex definitions. If you look for the mystery eggs, there are various headings such as "magicegg_rift_rare" with all of the various level costs in the file, maxing out at 22,500 Etherium for this rare one. It has a loot table id of "loottable_magicegg_rift_rare", and when you go look that value up you'll find it has loot with a value of "magiceggreward_rift_rare" = 1.
The magiceggreward_rift_rare is defined with values of "include_owned": true, "isegg": true, "rarity": "rare", and a "not" list of the basic 10 element dragons. As far as I can tell, these eggs can contain all rare dragons.
Now if you look at the reward egg for Galaxy dragons, it's similar but it has an additional value of "include_ids", listing out 18 different galaxy dragons. Rigel is NOT in the list. You can't get it from a Galaxy egg. Epic and commons do not have this include list. Anyone know if you can get Galaxy eggs from normal mystery eggs in the rift? I've not bought enough regular eggs to find out. If you can, then Rigel may be available that way.
Chrysalis mystery eggs also have an inclusion list with only the original dragons, none from the recent event.
Now the daily login bonuses has it's own rules for every single day set. On day 2, the Galaxy egg day, it's flagged as a milestone, galaxydragon, and it has a rewards defined. The rewards says fallback: polariandragon and "not": solarflaredragon / rigeldragon. So Rigel is not available in the daily login rewards. The other daily eggs do not have 'not' lists set. I've not seen anything in the files that state these need to be new dragons, but we know they are and I've probably just missed it and it's hiding somewhere else. It's a big file. Or it could be "include_owned" defaults to false, and they just don't list it. That's more likely. This is why Pearlescent would show up for some people on login, it's not excluded from the epic list.
Also, under the heading 'gamestentbuilding_0', there are two exclusion lists that are being kept up to date. There's an exclusions list and an exclusions_egg list. It appears to be related to the winter 2017 event originally, but they keep updating the dragons in the list. For example, Rigel and Pearlescent are in the egg exclusion list, but not the dragon one. This building value seems to get called during all sorts of events, so it may be reused code and lists of dragons available during most event rewards. I can't tell you yet if these lists are tied to the bought mystery eggs or not, adding additional exclusions, or if it's separate. It seems separate.
As a side note, I find it crazy that they've got information for events going back years and years in the file. It's so bloated in size in part due to the fact that it has tons of stuff from events going back to 2015. I thought it might be because they want to reuse things from year to year, but they always get new entries and clean out just part of prior events. The file is at least twice the size as it needs to be, if not 3x or more. Or even a lot more. I'm sure the game would speed up with less data to load, be prone to less errors, download faster, and use less memory (and help with crashing) if this file were cleaned up.
Post by jengrqkH#4979 on Jul 11, 2019 12:53:27 GMT -6
“Chrysalis mystery eggs also have an inclusion list with only the original dragons, none from the recent event”
I’m not sure if my post applies to this or not but I purchased a mystery chrysalis egg in the rift yesterday and got a dittoglide. Thank you for all of your work on deciphering the “code”. I’m in total support of this thread even though I don’t understand half of it. Will need to read the posts a few times to get it!
“Chrysalis mystery eggs also have an inclusion list with only the original dragons, none from the recent event”
I’m not sure if my post applies to this or not but I purchased a mystery chrysalis egg in the rift yesterday and got a dittoglide.
Interesting! I haven’t seen anyone else confirm the status of the new Chrysalis dragons in the Chrysalis Egg of Mystery. Thanks for letting everyone know!
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I'm not sure if you can find this out one way or the other for sure, but is there evidence that breeding with a level 20 dragon gives you better odds than say, a level 16 dragon? I know BFS state that 'higher level dragons increase breeding odds', but when feeding dragons the breeding descriptions only change at level 11 and 16 (21 for an elder primary).
I'm not sure if you can find this out one way or the other for sure, but is there evidence that breeding with a level 20 dragon gives you better odds than say, a level 16 dragon? I know BFS state that 'higher level dragons increase breeding odds', but when feeding dragons the breeding descriptions only change at level 11 and 16 (21 for an elder primary).
The formula for this is not located in the data we have access to, unfortunately. It seems plausible to test, though it would need a significant amount of data as the difference between one level and the next is probably small enough to cause statistics issues.
For what little my opinion is worth: I've always thought that it's more likely that the formula includes something like Base Chance * (1+ Some Constant * Average Parent Level) and that the text just changes when the bit in parentheses exceeds certain breakpoints, rather than the multiplier being fixed for a given range of levels and the text accurately reflecting that. The latter seems to me that it'd unnecessarily complicate the breeding calculations. YMMV. 🤷♂️
I just discovered something interesting, which I am not sure if it has been discussed before: When I released a Nesting dragon in the Rift, it was worth 200 E, instead of the normal 100. Is this a bug or meant to be? If so, why is that? This is the only dragon that I have found to give 200E when released. 🧐🤔😯
Post by journeywoman on Jul 16, 2019 11:53:27 GMT -6
So is Rigel permanent now? BEB has ended and all the hourglasses have updated to reflect this, but Rigel has no hourglass at all. And since galactic dragons can now be used to breed in the rift, it seems like we should be able to get it? 🤔
Rigel Dragon: "islimited": 0 - Should be able to be bred anytime now. That should remove this dragon from the 'most rare' list.
Nesting Dragon: "ReleaseRiftEgg": { "etherium": 200, "experience": 25000 } Nesting is set to 200 Etherium. Spirit, Ghostly Spirit, and Gargoyle dragon are all 200 also, probably a few others I missed. I don't capture that value in my database, maybe I should and see what other numbers are set.
I don't suppose there is anything in the files that show what the cost of costume pieces will be in Gems later on? For example the Wrath, Corrupticorn, and Porcelain were originally 75 gems each, and then later raised to a random one for 150 gems. Similarly the food decorations were dragoncash only, then changed to a random one for 75 gems.
Knowing a rough (minimum) price in gems helps gauge the value of spending gems in the current event to obtain clothes.
Post by crumble608 on Jul 19, 2019 17:49:16 GMT -6
Hi Quil , do you know the breeding time for Vanguard ? I would like to add it to the OP of the Spellform thread
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0 seconds, and not 0 seconds as in it's Rifty and they're all 0 seconds, but as in its incubate time exists and is set to 0 seconds.I asked the other posters from five and three days ago if they incubated Rigel as well. They’ve already responded (Reddit users are so with it!). Both players had to incubate Rigel for 16 hours. I love how the 16 hour incubation time was just pulled out of the sky. I wonder how long Yolkwing would take.
