I use the same level 20 dragons since monthes and never had anything else but gold: Plant: bloom Water: river Lightning: storm Cold: reindeer Air: blizzard Metal: forge Earth: obsidian Fire: bluefire
I use the same level 20 dragons since monthes and never had anything else but gold: Plant: bloom Water: river Lightning: storm Cold: reindeer Air: blizzard Metal: forge Earth: obsidian Fire: bluefire
So I guess there is truth to the theory that the base (first listed and pedestal type) does matter? You appear to have 6 of 8 with the first base. Forge has a fire base and I don't have a reindeer so I am not sure about that one.
I don't think it matters what the first element is, just the level. My competitors, which I have also used for months without a single silver, are: Plant & cold: paper Earth, air, fire, & water: panlong Lightning: plasma Metal: ironwood
Only water & lightning have a dragon with a primary element when I compete, yet I still get golds every day.
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Post by Maidy (Maid4Life) on Jun 11, 2013 20:37:53 GMT -6
I will never be a billionaire. I am compelled to plant food and feed my dragons. I know it may not make sense and is costly, but it's a compulsive thing. ;D
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I will never be a billionaire. I am compelled to plant food and feed my dragons. I know it may not make sense and is costly, but it's a compulsive thing. ;D
It makes sense to me. It's not real money. All you can do is buy stuff within DV with it. It doesn't even earn interest. So there's no point saving it. At least food is an investment within the context of DV.
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I will never be a billionaire. I am compelled to plant food and feed my dragons. I know it may not make sense and is costly, but it's a compulsive thing. ;D
I made an interesting discovery last night - it is virtually never worth using gems to speed up breeding or hatching. (Note that this is purely from a profit maximising standpoint - obviously gems have an intangible value when trying to breed a limited that is available for a very short time window (e.g. celtic), or if you happen to get very unlucky with a 'normal' limited)
The one (and only) exception is if you know that something will finish breeding say in an hour, but you won't be able to check for at least 2 hours. Before bed is another example.
See I always knew that you could exchange gems for cash through the market, but didn't realise that at level 45, it is actually a pretty darn good deal - nearly $500K per gem.
Now think about that, the most money you can possibly earn in an hour of breeding is just under $360K (breeding magnetics in an upgraded breeding location). So one gem, if spent speeding this up, would get you ~$360K. In reality, it is even less because you'd get bottlenecked in the hatchery, so you can't even do this all the time.
I've been using a lot of gems to speed up fails (e.g. when breeding for Bearded) as I was losing money not being able to breed magnetics. But each one of those gems could have been sold for $500K, far more than I'd get by speeding up magnetics.
So yeah, from now on, I will only be very prudent with my use of gems, knowing that each one is throwing away $500K!
Oh forgot to mention, the reason I mentioned the above is that it gives you a way to value your gems (seeing as they aren't included in park value). Every 200 gems is ~ $100m, 2000 gems is ~ $1b.
It also means that, with some park optimising, it is possible to increase your park value by $1b every week - note this would require selling some gems though (unless you have a park comprised entirely of Solstices, or some other sun/moon limited at 316/m)
It also means that, with some park optimising, it is possible to increase your park value by $1b every week - note this would require selling some gems though
How do you sell gems? Not that I want to do it at this point as I don't have too many gems, but I was curious as to how you can do that. I could see how you can estimate a value for gems by taking the price to by gold and divide it by the gems purchased with the same amount of money. But I am not sure how you sell gems for cash in the game.
It also means that, with some park optimising, it is possible to increase your park value by $1b every week - note this would require selling some gems though
How do you sell gems? Not that I want to do it at this point as I don't have too many gems, but I was curious as to how you can do that. I could see how you can estimate a value for gems by taking the price to by gold and divide it by the gems purchased with the same amount of money. But I am not sure how you sell gems for cash in the game.
If you tap on the Market > Treasury (the place where you buy gems and food and DC), there's an option to convert your gems into DC. It's the right-most option, and the English label is "Trade". As I'm looking at the game right now, the trade rate is I give up 50 gems for 23,462,500 DC.
If you tap on the Market > Treasury (the place where you buy gems and food and DC), there's an option to convert your gems into DC. It's the right-most option, and the English label is "Trade". As I'm looking at the game right now, the trade rate is I give up 50 gems for 23,462,500 DC.
And it doesn't show up if you use any of the filters. You have to scroll all the way to the right to find it.
I didn't know about it for a long time becuase of that...
If you tap on the Market > Treasury (the place where you buy gems and food and DC), there's an option to convert your gems into DC. It's the right-most option, and the English label is "Trade". As I'm looking at the game right now, the trade rate is I give up 50 gems for 23,462,500 DC.
And it doesn't show up if you use any of the filters. You have to scroll all the way to the right to find it.
I didn't know about it for a long time becuase of that...
Ah, exactly my problem! Thank you! $275k per gem for me at level 39.
How do you sell gems? Not that I want to do it at this point as I don't have too many gems, but I was curious as to how you can do that. I could see how you can estimate a value for gems by taking the price to by gold and divide it by the gems purchased with the same amount of money. But I am not sure how you sell gems for cash in the game.
I see your question has been answered
Yeah, I don't think I'd ever sell mine either, but it is nice to know what they are worth. For example, I was spending gems to speed up magnetics to bring in more cash. This is silly as you would get more money by just selling the gems instead!
So I'm going to stick to my strategy of just speeding up fails if it I'm going to bed and there is only 1 or 2 hours left (and I could set something up that would be breeding all night), or if there is a very limited dragon that I need to spend gems to get.
To increase my park earning capacity a bit, I'm going to build 2 more large moon habitats and breed another 6 Blue Moons (I've already got 50 solstice dragons, so don't really need anymore... Plus if they ever introduce epic shrines, I'll be closer to the Moon shrine this way).
I've upgraded an additional 3 of my earth habitats to Giant and I'll sell the 5th, leaving me with 4 giant earth habitats in total. I'm also going to flog off my metal habitat as it is practically useless for earnings.
So no plant or metal habitats in my park - But as they are opposite elements, it means there are only 4 dragons that I can't display (i.e. if I need them for breeding purposes).
Once this is done, and assuming there is nothing new to breed for, I should be able to earn a whopping $75m a day!
Alright everyone, I wanted to get to the bottom of this. From a pure efficiency stand point, which is better - An army of Solstices or an army of Panlongs?
I've made a number of assumptions throughout this analysis, which I can list out if anyone is interested. But I have not favoured either side as I was genuinely interested in which would prove to be optimal. A lot of the assumptions I've made probably do favour the Panlongs a bit though.
All numbers below represent the cost of a complete habitat (i.e. large sun with 3 solstices, or giant earth with 5 panlongs). Gross investment cost includes the lost earnings from having the dragons breeding, the lost earnings from breeding magnetics while the dragons are breeding, the habitat cost and the food cost. The net cost is derived by subtracting the value of the dragons and the habitat, as you can reclaim this money whenever you want. Note that I've valued gems at the max value you can get for them at level 50 (~$470K).
The numbers:
UNREALISTIC PANLONG SCENARIO (every last dollar can be collected during the day and even once during the night). This scenario is basically the most that anyone could every practically earn from this scenario, assuming a 16 hour day and one check overnight. It is not realistic.
In this scenario, if both habitats were completed at the same time, it would take 131 days for the Panlong habitat to have earnt more than the Solstice habitat. Note that this scenario includes assumptions VERY favourable to the Panlongs.
REALISTIC PANLONG SCENARIO. This scenario assumes the player checks first thing in the morning, and can check roughly 10 times per day (about every 1.5 hours). It still requires a lot of checking, but is more realistic.
In this scenario, if both habitats were completed at the same time, it would take 311 days for the Panlong habitat to have earnt more than the Solstice habitat.
I think this demonstrates that unless you are planning on playing this game for a LONG LONG time, or you can check ridiculously often, Solstices are a far better choice.
The other consideration is that in 311 days, there'll likely be some new dragon or new habitat that is even better, so investing so much into the Panlongs just isn't worth it (unless you already have them of course).
One last thing
I also tested whether different level Panlongs (rather than level 15) could be more feasible.
In the unrealistic scenario, Level 13 panlongs are the best, being more profitable than a Solstice habitat in only 73 days rather than 131 days.
In the realistic scenario, Level 12 panlongs are the best, taking 106 days.
Remember though, that these scenarios assume that you can play at this level of frequency EVERY SINGLE DAY. This is not realistic. And on days where you can only check (say) once, the Solstice habitat would make well over a million more than the Panlongs. For every one day that this happens, it'll take another 4-5 days of active playing for the Panlongs to make it back.
Last Edit: Jun 13, 2013 21:42:03 GMT -6 by pjsteel
Just a suggestion to not sell your unwanted habitats, but to stow them instead. Because who knows when you are going to need a metal or plant or (extra) earth habitat, to temporarily house a dragon parent for a specific breeding combination.
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