I read on the wiki that for the Colosseum using a dragon with the correct first element is better (in other words, with a pedestal of the competition element). Anyone know if there is truth to that? I am only a silver shrine player so only level 15 for me. But I seem to win enough golds in the Colosseum that I am wondering if level 20 dragons are worth it even for the Colosseum. I have been tracking my results in the Dragonvale Database to try to see which dragons seem to work the best. I have mostly been doing level 15 base dragons.
But as Bloodstone said, if there is nothing else to do in the game then you might as well crown some dragons. I am just pretty far from that at the moment. I also don't have any four element dragons yet.
I used to do fine with just lvl 15s in the Colosseum. Then I started getting Silvers occasionally and, gasp, even Bronzes! (Still got Golds on Metal and found I was a bit more likely to get gold if I put in a dragon with Lightning as one of the elements) I finally gilded my Fire Shrine today (at level 40) and am using a lvl 17 rose in the Fire Coloseum. We'll see how it goes.
Current stats: lvl 40. 1 gold shrine. 500M DC, 132 gems, 4,743,606,627 points (is this 4.744B?)
Last Edit: Jun 7, 2013 16:03:56 GMT -6 by vonfirmath
There is a complicated calculation that happens when you put a dragon into compete in the Colosseum. Basically, as your park value increases, the higher level a dragon you need to compete.
Is the actual calculation known?
There will come a time when you start getting Silver medals. When that happens, you need to level up your competing dragons beyond 15.
Does there come a time when your park value increase to the point that even crowned dragons no longer consistently win Gold?
Obviously I'm a LONG way from that if so...
I don't know if the calculation is known.
Of the nearly 230 dragonvalers on my friends' list, my park value is in the top ten, and I still get golds 95% of the time with L20 dragons. Poppy and Jack and Viv have very high-value parks, and I've never heard them complain about not being able to get Gold medals in the Colosseum. So I'm willing to bet that L20 dragons give you a very high % chance of getting a gold, no matter what your park value is.
I've been watching him and he is slowly going at the shrines. About once a day or so he buys enough food to feed a new dragon to level 15, he has managed to turn one shrine gold so far and is close for all the others. Just like his gems, he is hoarding all his DC and spends it sparingly.....lol
I've been watching him and he is slowly going at the shrines. About once a day or so he buys enough food to feed a new dragon to level 15, he has managed to turn one shrine gold so far and is close for all the others. Just like his gems, he is hoarding all his DC and spends it sparingly.....lol
Thanks for the update, has been so long since we have heard much from either of you.
I've been watching him and he is slowly going at the shrines. About once a day or so he buys enough food to feed a new dragon to level 15, he has managed to turn one shrine gold so far and is close for all the others. Just like his gems, he is hoarding all his DC and spends it sparingly.....lol
Thanks for the update, has been so long since we have heard much from either of you.
Thanks Pixie, he just turned his Earth Shrine gold today with his first Bearded Dragon. I just checked his Gamecenter and he is in the top 5% in the world but only top 35% of his friends, he is in good company....lol
Last Edit: Jun 9, 2013 11:40:38 GMT -6 by huntnphool
Thanks for the update, has been so long since we have heard much from either of you.
Thanks Pixie, he just turned his Earth Shrine gold today with his first Bearded Dragon. I just checked his Gamecenter and he is in the top 5% in the world but only top 35% of his friends, he is in good company....lol
And 95% of the top 5% are those with hacked accounts... As far as real players go, I would hazard he's in the top 3%
I am at 550 million (going for a billion) since I decided that feeding up my dragons was not going to help with breeding! It seems I get more results with my level 15 dragons! LOL. I have one of every dragon pair at level 17 and one at level 15. I have 5 crowned dragons. 2 Panlongs, named after my parents, 2 Paper named after my husband and I and 1 Copper.
Shrines would not factor in as they reflect dragon levels that already are factored in of course.
It would be that simple - if not for the following exceptions:
- You typically don't keep all the dragons you use to level up the shrine. So when you sell the dragons, you lose the park value associated with that dragon. But is there any park value in the shrine?
- You can upgrade the shrine with gems. So how does that factor in?
Also, dragons can count for multiple shrines, so that might factor in.
You would think that a shrine would add some kind of fixed value, say $50m for a silver shrine and $500m for a gold or something like that.
Hard to test though, as you would need to have an account that hasn't bought ANY of the shrines, then instantly level one of them up to silver and gold.
Could be done on a test account tho I guess. If you level it instantly with gems, you could see if the shrine has any value (as there would be no increase in park value from levelling dragons).
If you did it by levelling dragons, you would have to substract off the value you would have gained by levelling the dragons anyway.
Ok let me try to explain it some more... When you sell a dragon u lose the net worth of the dragon minus the sell price. So the higher the level of the dragon the higher the hit to your net worth...this is the main reason I did not do the shrine grind as it seemed anti productive to my net worth since I would not be able to keep all the dragons I bred as there wouldn't be room for all of them plus the high earn rate dragons that I wanted to breed.
Gems do not add or subtract from your net (unless u convert to cash) so using 50 gems to turn a shrine would not impact your net either way.
So to prove this I will use 34 gems to update my plant shrine to gold...my starting worth is 10,011,655,717. I have just converted and my ending worth is drumroll please.....10,011,655,717! I now have a gold shrine first one for me...
It would be that simple - if not for the following exceptions:
- You typically don't keep all the dragons you use to level up the shrine. So when you sell the dragons, you lose the park value associated with that dragon. But is there any park value in the shrine?
- You can upgrade the shrine with gems. So how does that factor in?
Also, dragons can count for multiple shrines, so that might factor in.
You would think that a shrine would add some kind of fixed value, say $50m for a silver shrine and $500m for a gold or something like that.
Hard to test though, as you would need to have an account that hasn't bought ANY of the shrines, then instantly level one of them up to silver and gold.
Could be done on a test account tho I guess. If you level it instantly with gems, you could see if the shrine has any value (as there would be no increase in park value from levelling dragons).
If you did it by levelling dragons, you would have to substract off the value you would have gained by levelling the dragons anyway.
Ok let me try to explain it some more... When you sell a dragon u lose the net worth of the dragon minus the sell price. So the higher the level of the dragon the higher the hit to your net worth...this is the main reason I did not do the shrine grind as it seemed anti productive to my net worth since I would not be able to keep all the dragons I bred as there wouldn't be room for all of them plus the high earn rate dragons that I wanted to breed.
Gems do not add or subtract from your net (unless u convert to cash) so using 50 gems to turn a shrine would not impact your net either way.
So to prove this I will use 34 gems to update my plant shrine to gold...my starting worth is 10,011,655,717. I have just converted and my ending worth is drumroll please.....10,011,655,717! I now have a gold shrine first one for me...
Interesting.
The only thing left to test then is whether actually building a shrine contributes to park value - I suspect it would probably just be the same rule as decorations then.
It is clear that improving a shrine via levelling dragons does not (this is a fixed amount of 100 per food). It is now also clear that upgrading a shrine via gems does not.
I read on the wiki that for the Colosseum using a dragon with the correct first element is better (in other words, with a pedestal of the competition element). Anyone know if there is truth to that? I am only a silver shrine player so only level 15 for me. But I seem to win enough golds in the Colosseum that I am wondering if level 20 dragons are worth it even for the Colosseum. I have been tracking my results in the Dragonvale Database to try to see which dragons seem to work the best. I have mostly been doing level 15 base dragons.
But as Bloodstone said, if there is nothing else to do in the game then you might as well crown some dragons. I am just pretty far from that at the moment. I also don't have any four element dragons yet.
I used to do fine with just lvl 15s in the Colosseum. Then I started getting Silvers occasionally and, gasp, even Bronzes! (Still got Golds on Metal and found I was a bit more likely to get gold if I put in a dragon with Lightning as one of the elements) I finally gilded my Fire Shrine today (at level 40) and am using a lvl 17 rose in the Fire Coloseum. We'll see how it goes.
Current stats: lvl 40. 1 gold shrine. 500M DC, 132 gems, 4,743,606,627 points (is this 4.744B?)
Yes u would be correct..
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