I am also sharing a level 18 Mistletoe (and annoyingly I got a 3rd Mistletoe fail yesterday that I sold! Thanks BFS! Oh well, I probably wouldn't commit all three breeding locations to Holly anyway since Pyrite is being stubborn...)
Skitch’s “more than you ever wanted to know” guide to maximizing your Iceberry nest egg
We have seen continued confusion about how to save the most Iceberries during the Winter Frostival event, so I thought it would be useful to collect our accumulated wisdom and strategery* into a single post.
TERMINOLOGY - Part of the confusion has arisen over messy terminology, so let’s define some terms first. Iceberries are stored in two distinct places, and we somewhat sloppily refer to both of them as a “bank”. The “Iceberries” icon that appears on your main screen contains currency that you can spend in the prize tent at any time, so rather than calling this a bank, let’s call it the “wallet” (I’m open to other suggestions!). The other place that Iceberries are stored is in the Social menu’s Gifts tab. Iceberries stored here can’t be spent until they are withdrawn into your wallet, so it’s appropriate to call this the “bank”. For the purposes of this guide, “banking Iceberries” explicitly means accumulating them in the Gifts tab.
There is also some confusion over the term “reset”. There are three distinct kinds of reset that are relevant to this discussion. “Park reset” is when your park contacts the server to get new instructions and put new rules or conditions into place. Park reset occurs whenever you restart your app (e.g. after it has been killed or your device has rebooted), when you return to your park after visiting friends, or when your park has experienced a problem and had to reload (e.g. a spell has gone wonky, among other things). “Iceberry reset” occurs daily and means that the Wizards have hidden more Iceberries in your park and have reset the daily cap of Iceberries you are allowed to collect (more on caps later). Iceberry reset occurs at 11:00 AM BFS Time (there is a handy BFS Time clock near the top of our forum pages). “Gift reset” also occurs daily and means that new friend gifts are available to be sent and new Party Hats are available to be tapped when visiting friends. Gift reset happens around 6:30 PM BFS time.
COLLECTING ICEBERRIES - I won’t go into great detail about collecting Iceberries other than to note that they can be found in the same basic ways that we’ve seen in previous events (with, as usual, a wrinkle or two): competing in the Arctic Arena, spinning the Wheel of Chance, playing Name That Dragon, collecting a gift from the new Advent Calendar, collecting DragonCash, harvesting Treats, hatching/selling dragons, competing in the Colosseum, performing Kairos quests, clearing island obstacles, spending Gems, receiving friend gifts, visiting friends to collect Party Hats, and finding and tapping special park visitors. For this event the special visitor is Sandakloz. Sandakloz appears at least once a day in your park, but he may appear again 12 hours later if you find and tap him early enough after Iceberry reset. Finally, you can buy Iceberries as an in-app purchase using real-world money. Iceberries that you receive as friend gifts initially go into your bank and must be moved to your wallet before they can be spent (but you may want to hold off on doing this as I will explain below).
ICEBERRY CAPS - The amount of Iceberries that you can put into your wallet has a daily cap (although there are a few ways that you can put extra Iceberries into your wallet above the cap). The daily cap is 1000 Iceberries unless doubles are in effect, in which case the daily cap is also doubled to 2000. Iceberries that you receive from the daily Advent Calendar gift or that you buy as an in-app purchase are exempt from the cap and will be added to your wallet above and beyond the cap limit. If you have a problem in your park you may receive compensation from BFS in the form of Iceberries as well. Depending on the nature of the problem, Iceberries received in this way may go into your wallet or into your bank. If they go into your wallet they will not count against your cap either. Iceberries that you receive as friend gifts initially appear in your bank and are not subject to a daily cap (until you move them to your wallet). You can receive an “unlimited” amount if you have lots of friends. However, note that there is a practical ceiling associated with device limitations and we have seen problems if the gift tab has too many items in it (twin eggs as well as uncollected gifts). You may withdraw Iceberries from your bank into your wallet as long as you have not yet reached your daily cap by tapping the "Collect" button next to the gift. In addition to gifts received from friends (or from BFS), there are two other ways that Iceberries can be banked: if you exceed the daily cap by collecting a prize from the Wheel of Chance or Name That Dragon, the excess will be credited to your bank. Also, if you wait until you have reached your cap to collect your winnings from the Arctic Arena, those winnings will be placed in your bank as well.
BANKED ICEBERRIES - The precedent that BFS has established for previous events is that all event currency that has been banked will be moved to your wallet and made available to you for purchasing prizes when the event is over (the Prize Tent will remain open for a while after Iceberry collection is over), so don’t be shy about saving as many as you can. However, note that a new wrinkle in this event is that some prizes must apparently be purchased before the event is actually over (sorta like the one day limited offers we’ve seen in previous events), so be sure to account for that.
EXPLOITS - An “exploit” is a technique for using a mechanism built into a game to obtain a benefit. An exploit is not a “hack”, although exploits may be either intended or unintended by the developer. Some folks regard exploits as “cheating” but this is certainly a personal choice. There are two interesting exploits available in Dragonvale. The classic one is to “extend doubles”. This exploit allows you to continue collecting double Iceberries after Iceberry reset on the final day of doubles. To use this exploit, you must be in your park at Iceberry reset when doubles would normally be over. Basically, if you do not have a park reset (i.e. you don’t kill the app or visit friends) then you can continue to collect double Iceberries and your daily cap will remain doubled as well. If you intend to attempt this exploit, don’t quit the app or allow your device to go to sleep (these actions won’t necessarily cause a park reset, but they might), and don't visit friends.
A new exploit was discovered this year and there may or may not be another opportunity to take advantage of it. During the first doubles weekend, doubles actually started before Iceberry reset, providing a short window of time where the previous day’s cap was lifted to double its value and, if you were quick and efficient, you could collect an extra 1000 Iceberries before Iceberry reset. This effectively gave us an extra day of doubles. We have at least one more doubles weekend coming, so keep an eye out for this situation again if you’d like to try to use it.
MAXIMIZING ICEBERRIES - The trick to maximizing your Iceberries is to take advantage of the various ways available for sending them to your bank. Be aware of how big your wallet can grow as you play each day. This is a running total that increases by at least 1000 or 2000 per day (depending on doubles). It is made more complicated by the fact that Advent Calendar gifts or purchased Iceberries go into your wallet without affecting your cap, so pay close attention to the new total each day. As you play, be sure to save 1 or 2 spins of the Wheel (or 1 or 2 Name That Dragon plays) and don’t collect your last (5th) Arctic Arena reward. Note how close you are coming to your limit for the day and try to use small rewards (hatching Plant dragons, clearing obstacles, etc.) to creep to within 1 or 2 Iceberries of the limit. When you are within striking distance, go ahead and use your last spin or two (or your last Name That Dragon play) to surpass the limit. Any excess above the limit will be banked. This can net you anywhere from 0 to 39 Iceberries (or twice that if doubles are active). Once you have passed the cap, now you can safely collect the last Arctic Arena prize, which will be banked in its entirety (resulting in a 50 or 100 Iceberry bank, doubled to 100 or 200 when doubles are active). Also, wait until you have passed the daily cap to collect your Gem and Treat gifts from friends. If you do this you will still be able to collect your Gems and Treats, but the Iceberries will remain in the bank. If you follow these techniques, your bank will accumulate a large BFS gift and a bunch of smaller gifts comprised of uncollected Iceberries from each gifting friend. Again, after the event is over, BFS will move all your Iceberries from the bank into your wallet.
I hope this guide is helpful for you, and if you notice anything I've missed or gotten wrong. please let me know!
Looks like you don't need to panic if you miss a day on the advent calendar. I missed in my baby park (I don't put a lot of effort into keeping it up) and was offered the chance to "catch up" for 1 gem. Don't know if it will be a gem a day or if it's a compounding penalty or something.
Ai thought that would be the case. Otherwise the "you Are up to date" memo on the side made no sense.
Did you get the berries for the gem as well? If so it may be worth while hanging out for the next doubles weekend for any more you miss
Unfortunately I'm not trying to get max berries in my small park, so I'm not tracking them and didn't notice if I got any for the gem spent.
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Looks like you don't need to panic if you miss a day on the advent calendar. I missed in my baby park (I don't put a lot of effort into keeping it up) and was offered the chance to "catch up" for 1 gem. Don't know if it will be a gem a day or if it's a compounding penalty or something.
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
Oookay, something's weird here: when the doubles started, I had 1500 from yesterday, and I started collecting what I could to take advantage of the lifted cap. Everything I've collected has been doubled as far as I know...so how do I now have an odd number of iceberries? :-O
Does your odd number end in 5? Perhaps you collected a friend gift that was sent before doubles.
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
NOW's the time to buy the pricey gem stuff - max with doubles is 2500 for1morehour. I sped up dragons and bought a Theme to get there!
In my case, I still had a couple Habitat limit upgrades which I had planned to do anyway when my gem stash is replenished. But this was too good an opportunity, so I spent 400 now and got 800 closer to 2500! A little party hat grinding and I've got 2500 for the first day, plus an Arena bank! Awesome!
Hmm, not only is it doubles, but I just blew past 1500 for my first day (I was creeping up to the limit before banking my Arena and got 80 berries on my last wheel spin...) so now I guess I have to scramble to find as many as possible before reset in a little over an hour!
Congratulations, you got the bane of BeB, Motley is a possible outcome of any breeding.
Oh boy. I hadn't thought about that menace. Does this happen frequently enough that I should forget about grinding plants to get to the max berries for the day?
You can grind Plants by simply buying the egg, they're dirt cheap (well, grass cheap I guess)!
GCID: akaSkitch
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Awesome. I wonder what happens if I upgrade the special habitat that doesn't count against the limit though.
Does the new, larger one also ignore the habitat limit? Guess I'll find out.
I wondered the same thing. I didn't pull the trigger though because I'm worried the Large version of the reward habitat won't look different from the normal one as it does currently (I'm pretty confident they wouldn't have overlooked this point, but they have been know to miss things). Do let us know your results!
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
Silly me, always post silly posts. In turn, mods make fun of my post, and another mod nominate that mod's post. If that post won the POTM contest, then mods give mods gems.
+ Few of my gems friends are mods. Since they exchange gems among themselves for winning POTM, they skip me altogether.
It's totally wrong, and completely wrong...
Well, they made me a mod which means they'll let anybody be a mod. Maybe we should make everybody a mod! What could possibly go wrong?
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
Not only is modern day dragon breeding just a more difficult proposition these days, but BFS has the uncanny ability to render my Dragonarium non-sparkly mere hours after I manage to get it back!
I finally hatched my Comet dragon this morning, celebrated, admired the sparklosity for a few minutes, then did a little non-dragony work. When I logged back in, LOOKOUT, BRAMBLE DRAGON!!!
Edit: Ha! On the other hand, 14:24 in the EBI on my very first attempt using my elder Dark and elder Plant!
epic limited, epic non limited, non epic limited, non epic non limited, Galaxy limited, Galaxy non limited and gemstone limited or gemstone non limited. We currently have no non limited gemstones.
In my head I read this part in a Monty Python Spam skit accent!
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
Thanx Bloodstone and Buffy! I'm aware of the inaccuracies (and often speculative nature) of the sandbox, of course. The main thrust of my musing was the last part though: do we know of anyone who has run a statistically significant number of trials with Mono and SF showing there's no cloning advantage?
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
I am trying to breed a 2nd Mono 5. The least fails would be to breed Same + Same (DR and R are in the mix, regardless).
Breeding success is the same across the board right: Mono 1 + Mono 1 Vs. Mono 2 + Mono 2 Vs. Mono 3 + Mono 3...etc?
Thanks BS.
For the record, none of the Mono or Snowflake dragons clone. So any Mono + Mono has the same chance of producing any of the five Monos, with Mono 1 and 2 being the most common results and and Mono 5 being the absolute rarest.
So your overall best bet is keep trying with Mono 1 + Mono 2 because it has the lowest average fail times.
I've wondered about this... The sandbox lists cloning probability as 10% for SFs and Monos, 1% for the other Mono5 combos. Has anybody done any big testing runs to get the stats?
ETA: Note that the sandbox also indicates that cloning has a lower chance than the other combos for the lower level Monos as well! 10% to clone, 20% otherwise.
I do appreciate the great price of making treats during this event. I think I was able to make a little over 20 million treats during the event not including the hidden treats collected, and I was just using 4 of the huge treat farms.
I, uh *ahem*, uh, well, may have appreciated the great price for treats a bit too much myself. Goes with the RL gluttony holiday here I guess.
Was just going to get back to 60M on reserves (from 5M after getting the 10th flag bearer / elder shrine) and then focus on getting my DC up from 8 to 10B (I just don't trust that the next island wont be ridiculous in price...).
However, I seem to have appreciated myself into ~120M treats and am down to 6.5M DC. Apparently, my mistrust isn't too great Well, back to Wisp+Wisp until the next event dragon / BeB starts!
I may have over-indulged this harvest season as well. I will be in trouble if the next island is in the 10B range!
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
Wheeeew... Gave myself a strict budget of 40 gems to spend speeding up breeding for Harvest. 4 gems and 3 minutes remaining and I have a Harvest in the cave!
Life is good (sometimes)!
GCID: akaSkitch
Hydrogen is a colorless, odorless gas, which if left alone in large enough quantities, for long enough, will begin to think about itself.
And no, Skitch, you're not deeply deeply in thrall to the game at all....your completist is a perfectly balanced obsessional
Ha! I can stop anytime! ::furtively pats phone pocket to make sure it's still there::
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